Welcome to the terrible majesty of the bray and the cray!
You know that by linking to the show, you are giving them hits, right?
Thanks, Jacy! Anyway, please pay attention to the small cough sound made by Meg after JA asks to take some pics (just before the end).They've had enough is all I got to say.OK. I'm done. I apologize to all for my excitement!!! (To Meg and Mary: you're right! she's annoying as hell! run!)a grateful k
i dont think hits matter anymore. It's imploding with or without us.
The video is embedded, it's not a link to the site, no?
Meghan appears to be pushing Jules off the sofa with her feet. Slightly rude, but in this case, I'm willing to overlook it.
M&M obviously know the opening song, but JA just bleats out a lame, discordant "mine too." So sad.
JA: "by the time they get the bill, too late!"This is a coded message to MR and MA and, by extension, the dad revenue stream.
It isn't a link really, and the hits actually don't matter. I still don't visit their site for the most part on principle, so it isn't about denying them some paltry hits. Companies in this economy are not going to waste money on a site where a large amount of pageviews amount to it all being negatively-driven. They are trying to make sales and would rather do that through likeable people and sites. Controversy and sensation are great, but if people are visiting a site because they're incredulous or to poke fun, the LAST thing they're going to do is support it by giving a click-through or making a purchase, which is kind of the point.Let them get whatever little advertisers they can, at the end of the day it will be short-lived when the results amount to nothing. I wouldn't be surprised if they (or the companies themselves) arrange compensation-free trial runs to see if it's even worth long-term investment. For as much as people get up in arms about pageviews, when the actual product is crap they really don't tend to matter.
They are so tired of her. It is so understandable. Imagine doing that fake-pretty-world-cupcake-bunny-pink-balloon-photo-after-photo-superficial-conversation BS every week!? Go M&M, go!
Meghan's expression as she turns away at the end says it all. Wow. Just wow, as a certain Julia Allison Baugher might blergh.
JA seems so lost. ALways trying to be in on it. It's easy to picture her at her junior high slumber parties..."No! No! No, guys! I have a scarier story!" "Wait! Let's put make-up on and take photos of me--um--us!"
WOW. Meghan looks utterly disgusted. Both her and Marys face just drop after they think they are done being "on". For how sisterly and loving they were being during the whole pathetic trip down birthday memory lane it just seemed odd that as soon as they said thier goodbyes thier body language turned ice cold.
Why are 99% of the photos Just Julia, or feature Julia hogging the frame? Don't M&M get a say-so at all???Why can't Mary have her own birthday celebration, anyway? Julia gloms onto hers, and it's not even her birthday week. Next, Julia gloms onto Randi Z's birthday. That witch is outta control. The other two are morons for putting up with her baloney, I don't care how much eye-rolling and disapproval they display. Birds of a feather and all that.
Once they read this, something will happen to tha video, no? Or Meg will post something nice about Julia to make it look/sound like she doesnt hate her, eh? Predictions...
And the Meghan throat-clearing at the end...classic, I tell ya. The camera doesn't lie.
It's weird: I, too, have in the past 2 days given up on the whole 'withholding my pageviews" thing. The site is just so lame--so radically, increasingly, disastrously bad--that it just can't matter if I click over there for a few yucks. Am I wrong?
I would like to party with Meghan.
Throat-clearing! Yes! That's the word/phrase...so. obvious. k
Wow, that face on Meghan is absolutely fucking hilarious. Oh, the end is near and it's glorious. I too know Julia and her two dopey handmaidens being here in NY. Can't say much for them as we've intermingled in social media events, except that the "Oh lord" factor rachets up when they enter. P O S E U R S
I think Meghan has made some actual friends (and even fans) in the tech industry, as opposed to Jackles with her superficial tweet/email/facebook networking target acquaintances. No doubt Meg's friends must be pulling her aside and asking why she's hanging around Julia Founder Fetish Allison.
Dyspeptic,I would suppose that it is a fine line. More clicks means that they may have to purchase more bandwidth ($$$ out); however, more clicks could also mean that they have a better story to sell to potential advertisers ($$$ in). Let your conscience be your guide.
Meghan made a beautiful move in that group hug at the end. She used the arm that was around Julia to wave goodbye, innocently (and expertly) blocking Julia's face with her hand. Nicely played, Megs.
I must say, I did not really believe the end WAS nigh until I got a load of Meghan's face at the end of that video. That was the very real moment in the whole show--which otherwise was the usual forced high spirits/girlyness/cotton candy it always it. Meghan's parting face though...real. Like a truckload of cold water got dumped on the cotton candy and dissolved it in an instant. Wowie. Can't get over it.
Wow. Meghan and Mary look/sound adorable in this video....and then there's Julia.
Why do you think they didn't edit out Meghan's face in the end?
Inquiry: Why have Meghan and Megan Alagna stopped Twittering entirely? Any theories?
9:34 - Julia wouldn't have noticed, therefore didn't ask for it to be cut. M&M def wouldn't have mentioned it, and their actual editors are probably trying to do as little as possible while making their money. Can't imagine having to sit there and edit this too look workable (imagine the really GOOD outtakes they completely scrap? Those I'd like to see) when you probably have Julia talking over the other 2 throughout the entire shoot.
Wow. Meghan's face was even worse than I expected after reading the comments.
Holy shit! Meghan looks completely annoyed and disgusted and just OVER IT.She has a problem with not knowing when the filming stops, so it's so funny that nobody told her that the camera was still on. That was left in on purpose. No question.
wow. the face was actually worse than i thought...
She was probably three hours late again, and if Meghan is the CEO and chief financer of this project, she's likely getting seriously pissed.I wonder how much the editors like her. She probably treats them like shit and barks all sorts of orders at them. There was one segment when she boasted brayingly about how "Jakob's Mom LOVED ME!!!" until Mary, incredulous, basically said: "What are you talking about? She sent you a vicious e-mail." It stayed at the beginning of the segment for a couple of days and people even commented on it. Then, poof, it was edited out, and the comments removed. Julia must have freaked.
This is probably a dumb question, but did they ever go live with NYFW coverage? After yesterday's silence, I gave up checking.
I can't find it now but there was a video of them being interviewed at CES by some guy with a big afro, and Megan looked SO UPSET with everything. That one was very telling also.
Hey, I think I figured out why Scary Mary is still on Tumblr while Baugher, Web2.0Morons, Trainwrecks, etc. were booted:Q: What do those three booted tumblrs primarily have in common? A: Duh, they all make fun of Jackles in one way or another. Q: But, theressomethingaboutmary makes fun of whom?A: The tumblr name kind of gives it away. MARY.Therefore, my hypothesis is that the only reason why Scary Mary is still in business is because her target is Mary, not Jackles. Scary Mary does the same thing that Baugher does (only not as witty). Judging from her behavior these past couple of days, I doubt Jackles has any problem with people making fun of her "sister," just as long as the negative posts about HER (that is, Jackles) are deleted. It may sound a little far-fetched, but it's the only explanation I can come up with...
Hey, also--this is the same person as Anon 10:38, btw--is there a reason why I can't see the "Real Stories of the Real Julia" post? It comes up blank when I click on the link.
I think Scary's blog is still up because nobody reads it and nobody takes it seriously. Baugher and Trainwrecks were intelligently written and witty. TSAM is just hateful drivel written by someone with a weird fixation on Mary.
CES video is by "slick" or something? it's on youtube
Yes, the Scary site is deranged. Something is not right with whoever's writing it. But yes, you'd think when JA was demanding Tumblr knock down the anti-JA blogs, she'd have mentioned Scary's as well. Of course, she and Scary were IMing recently, so that should tell you where her loyalties are.
I'm so torn about this Tumblr thing. I use Tumblr and I used to like the company a lot but the fact they are deleting blogs just because they mock their friends but leave up more hurtful ones or Tumblrs that spew hateful, racist or misogynist language or Tumblrs that post naked pictures of fellow Tumblrs is really lame.Think about it: The Molls Show and NonSociety both use Tumblr to "build" their site for them. And blogs that criticize both of those sites (that thursday-whatever tumblr that no one would no about if Molly McAleer didn't point it out ever day for The Molls Show and Trainwrecks and Baugher for NS) get deleted on the same day. Coincidence? I really don't think so. It is dumb that Tumblr uses their business like this. Especially considering that SO MUCH of the NonSociety's traffic is really dependent on their critics from Gawker and elsewhere (90% of their readers have a love-hate relationship with them--that is nothing new) so deleting critical blogs of NonSociety is ultimately going to hurt NS and Tumblr.On the other hand, it is Tumblr's TOS, they have the final say I guess. The only way we can make a point is by going back to WordPress. The funny thing is that Tumblr really is a fad. It reminds me of this thing similar to Wordpress/LJ we had a a few years ago in SoCal called Melodramatic, which was like a LJ for emo kids (I know, but it was uh, different). Anyways, it did social networking and meetups and cutesey shit just like Tumblr and the trend just passed. I imagine the same thing will happen to Tumblr in 3 years. Soon no one will care anymore.Fuck Karp.
Ah yes, the CES interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT9Y8f-TSBU.Megan can't describe any consumer electronics she's seen at the consumer electronics show, because she's been too busy filming videos all day. She doesn't look too happy about it.
Hey guys, we were taken off tumblr with no notice. We're not sure why, but we've inquired by email (no response yet). We can't even log in. Those of you who read us know we aren't the types to engage in libel or harassment. So who knows what happened? But we're on twitter at least for now, so we hope you'll check us out there: http://twitter.com/trainwrecks2
tw - that is horrible! I think it's no coincidence that the only blogs that have disappeared from Tumblr are those about JA. And RBNS - why do you say that you aren't sure JA removed your original Tumblr blog (believe this was in the previous post)? Your first post here on RBNS stated explicitly that JA had Tumblr remove it. Why the change of heart?
Boy, that hot pink dress sure makes a lot of appearances. JA wore it to the Thrillist junket in Vegas and Megs has been photographed in it several times already. I'm just going to guess it's machine washable.
Sorry, Mona, some clarification needed. We do think that JAB complained about RBNS on tumblr. However, we also think that said complaint probably had to do with some sort of TOS violation. We think that any blog pulled from tumblr has to violate some tumblr TOS. Trainwrecks: Email us at email@example.com, please!
yall, Scary Mary is worth checking out right now!
i don't think the tumblr takedowns are ns/snark related... drned's tumblr is gone, and he's not a reblogger...
RBNS - Thanks for the clarification. Tumblr should make a public comment about what has happened to the missing blogs - you can't remove some of the most popular blogs on your platform and go radio silent - to your audience as well as the blog owners. But then again Tumblr's run by a 22 year old who has who probably doesn't know better.
Time to spread the word around the net that Tumblr is not to be trusted for your content. If you have content on Tumblr, time to move it elsewhere. Maybe Union Square Ventures and Spark Capital will wise up and pull their Series B round of investment, thus killing the platform entirely.
Anon 12:52, drned just changed his account name. You can find him (along with all previous posts) under nedhepburn. He's a sweetie and it would be pretty shocking if he were included in the account culling as well.If the anonybloggers were deleted for mocking other users, then ScaryMary ought to be deleted too. She's crossed the line from mockery to vitriol, and it's gotten to be pretty unsettling. I'm not particularly fond of Mary, but this is verging on obsessive and just plain weird.
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@ms. bojankles: Wow, Scary Mary is really starting to creep me out.
Another one bites the dust:http://trainwrecks.tumblr.com/ is gone!
Detective Cupcake here. RBNS, you need to check ScaryMary's blog. She's put up a new title where Mary's name is crossed out and Julia's written in. She's posted an alleged communication between her and Jankles, too.
Just for laffs, Julia goes craaaazy at the College Humor party: http://guestofaguest.com/galleries/album585/29273/
Shit just got super-real.I can't wait to see ScaryMary unleash the crazy on Jackles. It is going to be a good taste apocalypse.
I think SM is cuckoo! I stop following her a long time ago because she stopped making sense.
From BrianVan's tumblr:I’ll confirm all your muckraking and say that undisclosed sources have confirmed to me that these anonybloggers were being watched for abuses and that The Tumblr Corporation, Inc. intended to moderate and/or delete known abusers through a top secret program, Operation FYL Assholes. The first step was taking the blogs out of the reblog flow (their reblog notifications were filtered by the system - though I’m not sure if it worked) and then continued abuse would trigger deletion. This information has not officially come from the company, but my observations of their presence on Tumblr and the eventual disappearance of these sites confirms what I was told.
Pisses me off that ScaryMary actually had Jankles' attention and couldn't properly explain what the hell the Google keyword controversy was about. Jankles kept going off on a tangent about spam links in the Advice Box/QOTD. ScaryMary made some smartass technospeak remarks about html that obviously went right over JA's head (or at least let her keep pretending and hiding behind the smokescreen).Shame Scary is so wrapped up in her own crazy. It was just two dingbats yelling "cuckoo" at the tops of their lungs.
O god! SM is pulling a JA, she's talking about the "haters" over here. Wah, Wah, Wah!http://theressomethingaboutmary.tumblr.com/post/79002730/dear-a-i-know-a-lot-of-tumblrs-are-mysteriously
Yeah, I always cringe when I see people commenting about her here, because I know it's just a matter of time before she feels the need to come here and make a ridiculously TL;DR post defending herself. God, she's dull.
Anony 2:46 again: Must admit, I'm glad she's aggravating the hell out of Jankles, however.
I'm sorry but I just have to comment again on Julia and Mary's boob showdown in this video. I simply had to watch it for the second time today because its just too hilarious. The way they both keep leaning forward for maximum coverage while practically mirroring each other. Its like high noon or something, or two Samurai standing on guard with swords drawn. Too much man. You couldn't write this shit. Plus, at the beginning when Julia starts dissing 'pink' when she talks about her 'break-up' (or whatever) with pink while Mary and Meagan are sitting there wearing ... oh I don't know ... basically ... pink! That went well I think, I'm sure they were thrilled with her in that moment.Plus, these comments about Meagan's face at the end are spot on. I just noticed it. Not happy at all. I can't take this man. I've got work to do - you know? Don't we all? There are important issues in the world. What are we doing here? What is this? Somebody help me. What if they're having one over on all of us. We're being punked - you know? Its like Joaquin Phoenix pretending to be out of control - right? That's what Nonsociety is - it's basically one huge impeccable, exquisite joke.
Yes, the Boob-Off. I noticed that too. How dare Mary get her boobs out, doesn't she know that's Julia's "thing"...Just have to say the "Pissing on the Pink Door" story from the Real Stories thread will give me laughs for days.
Just chiming in on this birthday-related post to bash on the bi-coastal birthday boondoggle. Why do these recent acts of charity seem more like commercials for Julia's imagined hottness?As I recall, Pink Lady Jugs-a-Plenty, fresh off the tarmac from Teterboro and full of enthusiasm from the inspirational women speaking at Davos, publicly declared her intentions to start doing acts of charity in a "personal" way. I believe she disapprovingly referred to charity galas as "disingenuous."Leading by example, she is now auctioning herself off for (charity!) dates and is throwing herself two (charity!) birthday parties. What a shining example of self-sacrifice! What an inspirational display of altruism!What a hypocritical turd.
Don Juan, there are multiple parallels between this and The Truman Show. If they would just stop broadcasting, we could all move on.People just enjoy watching other people's lives. My favorite webcam is in a commercial bakery in Italy. I watch them mix and roll out dough, move trays around, check the ovens, whatever. It's oddly soothing.
can we seriously get over the SM hate? it's stupid. sure, i don't always agree with her criticism of mary but it's silly to say she's "crazy". both sites are doing the SAME THING! hating on NS! everyone was up in arms over the N word situation but i didn't think that was any reason to call her a racist. i'm black and her comment didn't offend me. it was a little out there and in poor taste but that's it. this site is supposed to be about NS not SM. PLEASE let's keep it that way...
Scary Mary is just not well-written. That's all the criticism is about. At least Baugher would produce a laugh or two. Scary Mary just reads like it was written by a 24-year-old girl with a limited education and not that much wit. That is just the truth.In regards to BrianVan's post: there is no "Tumblr Corporation." Karp's company is part of what he calls "the Delaware coporation." BrianVan is just making that shit up.I think the connection of these blogs getting deleted and the fact they both criticized blogs that used Tumblr to "build" their site (The Molls Show and NS) is worth looking into.Has anyone emailed Gawker? This is right up their alley. If they don't cover this then it is just another sign of their irrelevancy.
You're a bunch of switch hitters. You all seemed to like SM until she said she was coming out with a website. No racist comments were made and you all sit here hating on every bit of minutia regarding JA an her life from childhood to now and act like you're so much better than SM? Not everyone here has as much wit as they think and it's not like ages claiming to be a journalist. You guys are putting your JA hate onto the wrong person and don't seem to realize that you don't even know this girl like you think u at least know JA. What if I say something the bandwagon doesn't like? Will you bully me too until coming here just sucks? I usually agree with the posters here but not on this one. There are years of reasons to hate JA. I kind of like how SM at least puts things in the open when she's called out in her favor or not. You guys should back off since we are all haters to begin with even coming here.
this site is supposed to be about NS not SM. PLEASE let's keep it that way...Then she should stop coming over here trying to draw people over to her blog. I missed the "n" word debacle but read other threads where she prolonged a long dead argument just to get attention.
And when will you get that gawker karp and JA all shit in the same pot?(typo from above it's not like she's claiming to be a journalist like your beloved julia)
She doesnt even come here anymore. Sorry but SM was around before RBNS and she came here to dish just like the rest of us. I saw her post one link to her other website and she linked here all the time so WTF? You don't even know why you're hating just following the pack. Live differently.
The reason Scary changed her blog's focus to Julia is because she wants to get her blog deleted so she can come here or go to one of her dozens of other blogs and cry for attention. The Anons defending her are obviously her. This blog is about criticizing transparent attention seekers. SM fits right in.
She wants to get her blog deleted to come here? She wants her blog deleted for attention? Why is she such an attention seeker? Because she defended herself for being called a racist when it was clear to anyone who could read she wasn't?tasteless maybe but so is everything else on this blog. You have no founded excuses for this witch hunt other than for the he'll of it, and JA might deserve it but we don't even know this person and that's what pusses me off. Anyone who disagrees with you must be her. Because everyone agrees with you. Everyone. Ego. That's grounds for bullying around here be careful.
Man you guys read wayyy too much into everything. (Talking about SM.)
umm...are people going to start accusing me of being SM too? cause that would be awesome.
I think the nasty Meghan look is fake. I think this whole fight is fake.
No! I think it's pretty obvious which commenter's SM. What was the N word debacle? I missed that!
Scary tried to relate using the word dyke with the N word. it was a ridiculous comparison, but a lot of people jumped on her and claimed she was a racist. commenters starting getting upset and SM got defensive. i think it was in poor taste to make the comparison, but it was just completely blown out of proportion and i think both parties got out of control. i don't think she was trying to upset anyone, she just used a really poor example and it just snowballed. with that being said, i think we should leave the whole thing alone and stop bashing her. she made a mistake, let's get over it.
meghan is full of anger.
God, are you people idiots: NO ONE CARES ABOUT SM'S N-WORD DEBATE! People don't like SM because it is POORLY WRITTEN. No one gives a shit about her other blog or whatever.I liked Trainwrecks as well but they just struck me as a bunch of pissed-off Jezebel/Gawker commenters looking to make fun of people anonymously. Also when they went all crazy about putting a questionmark outside of a quote (which they were totally wrong about) and wrote about it for like a week it just kind of revealed their special little brand of craziness.I would really like to hear a statement from Tumblr about what is going on. They aren't going to release a statement about something stirring up so much controversy? Lame.
Back to the topic at hand - TMI and it's unintended hilarity - I think that the producer is absolutely sabotaging them by finding the most ugly, unflattering screen cap possible every week. Every singe week the three of them look absolutely horrible in the screen cap that's up before you launch the video. Is the producer doing it on purpose... or are all three of them really that hideous looking on a frame-by-frame basis?"You see, this is my life! It always will be! Nothing else! Just us, the cameras, and those wonderful people out there in the dark!... All right, Mr. DeMille, I'm ready for my close-up."
Can I interject to point out the weirdness of having an episode to celebrate their own birthdays? It's just...something like that illustrates their problem perfectly. Who among their viewership actually cares that it's Mary's and Julia's birthdays? There's a gesture toward viewer engagement with "send us YOUR wacky birthday stories!" but they still aren't offering anything in terms of information or entertainment -- and it really feels like just a pretext for JA to go on and on about her bday. The recipes ep had a purpose. I just don't understand how anyone thinks his/her life is SO interesting that the stories are endlessly entertaining to us regular folk. Everyone has stories. The art (and entertainment) is in the telling. And, sorry, but there's no artistry here. They do better when they are transmitting information (about health, style, cooking) because repeating a story does not equal "storytelling."
At this point, I think, they are scraping for material so they can get through their contract. It seems to me like they stopped trying to be relevant a couple months ago. This birthday episode was pointless, other than it provided another excuse for Julia to remind everyone about her birthday.
Good points, Regina. I completely agree. It just shows me, once again, that JA has not a creative bone in her body. She's just too wrapped up in herself to think about engaging others for the benefit of others; it's only about her idea of *being engaging*, which boils down to her two ever-present breasts. Creative!FunnyBunny
Anon 12 pm: It was about a period, and we were right. Look it up.
Just want to re-post Don Juan's observation because I totally missed it and it is so. damn. good:Don Juan said... I'm sorry but I just have to comment again on Julia and Mary's boob showdown in this video. I simply had to watch it for the second time today because its just too hilarious. The way they both keep leaning forward for maximum coverage while practically mirroring each other. Its like high noon or something, or two Samurai standing on guard with swords drawn. Too much man. You couldn't write this shit.
Re: Christian: Yeah, they do seem to be scrapping for content. That's why the cooking episode was such a disaster. It was obvious that none of them enjoyed eating, cooking or discussing food that hasn't been juiced, packaged into a plastic bottle and delivered to their doorstep. To be fair, it was obvious that Mary was trying hard to share recipes and stick to the topic, but that episode just proved that they are really out of content ideas.It is a shame that they record things so far in advance because if they did it in--say--a week in advance they could discuss new items and other topics (I don't necessarily mean politics, there is a way to cover discuss current events while remaining light and fluffy, just look at 'The View'). We should start taking bets about who is going to back out of this disaster first: Meghan or Mary. Meghan's dissatisfaction is starting to show and she seems like the one of the three who really WANTS to be a respected "tech blogger" and not just a celebrity and she also seems insecure about how this is effecting her reputation.
tw: see, this is obsessive "we're never wrong! only we can judge people!" whining that marked my declining interest in your blog. Re: the PERIOD (sorry, I thought it was a quotation mark) inside quotes, you are wrong. Wrong as wrong could be. Look it up in Strunk and White, AP Style, Chicago Manual of Style, MLA Guidebook they all say that punctuation goes INSIDE the quote marks. Why would you tell me to go "look it up" when you obviously have not? Are you girls still in high school or something? At least that would explain the mindless cattiness and masked crusader complex you all had.
Haha. Yes, we're obsessive, says the person on Reblogging Nonsociety. And obviously your interest declined a lot, because we said the period should go inside the quotation mark. Check out the cached page. So we were...right? We don't *need* to look it up? I work as a copy editor? Hm??????
Also, not sure we you get this "only we can judge people" thing. We supported many other judgers, including RBNS. You got some kind of chip, honey?
we = where
Have you guys ever read *How to Win Friends and Influence People?* The title sounds silly, but it's a great book on how to communicate with people. Anyway, it offers the advice that when trivial arguments come up, people will like you more not if you're right but if you're capable of LETTING IT GO. So please, for the love of God, shut up about the damn period.
Aw, you were wrong, so now you have to talk about what a stupid argument it was. Did you think the point of rainwrecks was to get people to like us?
I think these women--and anyone who is closely associated--really SHOULD be thinking about reputational risk.
firstname.lastname@example.org david, what do you think of a whole bunch of haters flooding your inboxes asking what you did with baugher?bad choice.
he made a statementits on tumblr
TW, I was not the one involved in the debate with you. It got annoying so I felt like I had to step in.
Must defend TW on the punctuation debate. Periods indeed go inside the quotation marks.