Monday, February 16, 2009

Real Stories of the Real Julia

Hi Bunnies!

One of our illustrious (ooh, we bet Jackles loves that word!) commenters wanted to know the real dish on JAB from those who've met her in real life, and several of you have spoken up. Others have emailed us in the past. And Baugher has regaled us with tales of tipsters who have the (mis?)fortune of being in JAB's life.

Well, we'd love to start a little compendium of those tales here. Leave your story in the comments, or email us at nonsociety.rb@gmail.com (confidentiality will always be honored). We'll put this link in the sidebar to your right for easy access.

Spread the word, bunnies!

73 comments:

  1. so has tumblr removed baugher? "we couldn't find the page you were looking for."

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  2. And yet, "Theressomethingaboutmary" remains.

    Fucking bullshit.

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  3. I'm just surprise it's taken Jackles this long to talk David into taking down Baugher and Trainwrecks. But maybe I'm overreacting - they've both gone down and come back online before.

    RBNS is smart to operate on a system JA can't influence.

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  4. The disappearance of the Baugher blog is being discussed in the post below - Julia Parody Video. Let's take it over there and keep this thread reserved for "real Julia" stories.

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  5. I need to think about how I can comment without giving myself away. My older brother lived in Wilmette for 10 years and knows JA's parents.

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  6. RBNS is on fire these days with the addition of Jacey and Russian Girl writing posts. My favorite site on the web by far!

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  7. Wilmette, please think of some way to spill! Or are your tales too specific?

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  8. I put up a Tumblr about 3 weeks ago about crazy women in Manhattan who dates psychos. I never promoted it or advertised it. I reblogged a post from a Tumblr that another blogger writes about letters she exchanges with serial killers and other men in prison. I wrote my opinion, nothing threatening and nothing that wasn't already made public by the blogger herself. Boom...within a day it was taken down and my Mozilla IP was blocked from accessing Tumblr.com.

    Karp and Co. are clearly very easily swayed by fake letters and threats of cease and desists. No doubt Julia had someone draft up a letter or made some kind of threat and got all those Tumblrs removed. I'm sure Karp and Co are hiding behind some piece of jibberish in there TOU and are going to say that the Tumblrs that have been removed were created to make personal attacks or something like that.

    It's called the first amendment, Karp. If people are going to put stuff out there on a blog, then they shouldn't be surprised when other people express their opinion about those things. And maybe people wouldn't feel compelled to start their own blogs in response if the bloggers they were criticizing a) didn't have stuff to hide and b) allowed people to speak their mind and leave comments.

    Tumblr blows. Their dashboard is stupid and pointless. The templates sucks. Etc. Blerg.

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  9. Well that isn't totally true (about 1st amendment rights). Most blog hosting sites have Terms of Service and can delete blogs and entries that violate those terms of service. I am not too familiar with TUMBLR, but I am assuming they have a TOS violations code too. Blogspot definitely has one.

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  10. Wilmette, you could tell us what her folks think of her lifestyle, or what her mom is like. Lots of their friends would know general stuff like that, so you wouldn't be identifiable. It's a good starting point...

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  11. Thank God Jankles has no connections at Google...wait. Oh shit, it's been nice knowing ya'll.

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  12. Why, because she glommed onto Larry Page somewhere for a quick photo? She already committed a major fail violating their own TOS, so the adsense (which anyone can add to their site, without being highly scrutinized) is a coverup. That isn't going anywhere. LMAO

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  13. i emailed her recently about the never having needles in her face comment. she claimed that technically (she said she speaks 'legalese') she never had injections in her cheeks or forehead and laugh lines fall outside those two zones. she said she'd post about it and thanked me. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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  14. I attended Georgetown University at the same time as JA (she graduated a year before me). While I didn't know her directly, she lived next door to a guy I was dating at the time. She was a complete joke to him and all his roommates, friends, etc.

    Though it is nothing groundbreaking to this group, I’ve found it amusing to read stories she conveniently fabricates.

    Here are just a few I can think of …… any other Hoyas out there, please feel free to chime in!

    1) At some point when she was talking about her past eating disorder issues, she referred to her “freshman year at Georgetown”….but it is no secret she was a transfer student to Gtown….as a sophomore I believe.
    2) JA, MR, and MA wrote that, like, OMG, they were all in the same sorority…..but Georgetown doesn’t have Greek life.

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  15. First JAB story, and I've got many a tale from my Georgetown days, involves the Pink Lady finding herself playing water sports when she just wanted to yell at someone, darn it!

    Let me explain: Julia Baugher was hated for many things at Georgetown, but mostly for her appalling sense of entitlement. That extended to her dorm room in LXR where Jules painted her dorm room door bright pink! Completely against university policy--and who wants to walk down an otherwise lovely hallway and see a garish pink door?--but as Julia has posted on her own blog, "rules shmules."

    There was a ritual involving that pink door and drunken undergraduate boys. Those drunken young men would stop by Julia's door and urinate on it on the way back to their own rooms. Yep, that's how much she was adored! And one night, Julia opened that pink door to catch the culprit in the process of defacing her door and was greeted with a yellow stream of adoration.

    Oh, I've got lots and lots of stories of the creature formerly known as Ms. Baugher.

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  16. Jack the Bulldog: MORE! MORE! MORE! More stories please!!

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  17. Fetch--I'll be posting one per day. Be patient. Good things come is small dosages!

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  18. JACK MORE MORE MORE

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  19. Anon 9:40--One a day. One a day. And they're all hilarious and appalling. It'll be more fun than Hanukkah.

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  20. WOO HOO! Can you confirm or deny that Julia was on the basketball dance team as she has claimed in the past? I'm curious because she seemed completely turned off when a date took her salsa dancing last month, but as someone with a dance background, I know that almost all dancers either enjoy other types of dance or can at least fake like they're good at other types of dancing. She also claims she was a serious ballerina as a child, but her movements, mannerisms and general disposition don't scream graceful dancer to me.

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  21. So Fetch--I honestly don't know if Jules was on the basketball dance team. I have heard her mention that she was a cheerleader at GU, and I don't know whether or not that's accurate, either. I will say that JAB is one of the most graceless women I've ever watched in motion, sort of like the proverbial bull in a china shop. It's also rather difficult for me to imagine her having the discipline to practice ballet or any other form of dance. Her attention span is quite limited.

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  22. Hoya Dance Team - don't see Jules. http://www.freewebs.com/hoyadanceteam/

    I wonder what dorm she lived in at IU her freshman year. That would be telling, the IU dorms areas are pretty good at predicting personalities. She probably lived in Ashton - the single room dorms.

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  23. Anon 10:03: She lived in Teter-Rabb. And she was a member of Delta Gamma (no coincidence -- the sorority's colors include PINK!!!) so she may be telling the truth about being in the same sorority as Meghan and Mary.

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  24. It looks like she really was on the dance team, or cheerleading, or something that necessitated her to wear this gawdawful uniform:
    http://julia.nonsociety.com/post/21746773-0-50-georgetown-4

    Oooh, neat! Look at her old face!

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  25. Doesn't anyone find it odd that Julia left a state school over mysterious circumstances and ended up matriculating the next school year at Georgetown, particularly when Georgetown has a notoriously low acceptance rate? I'd LOVE to know the story behind this!

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  26. Anon 11:04 -- she spent a year off as an assistant for a congressman, right? Hook-up from daddy? GU jizzes themselves over stupid stuff like that.

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  27. Julia. The Memories. Continued.

    I took a great class in children's literature during my junior year at Georgetown. It was a large class for an English elective, maybe 70 students, and the professor was sort of the grande dame of the English dept., brilliant and a bit like Margaret Thatcher--I always felt that I should curtsy when in her presence. I say that with admiration.

    Julia was also in that class. Showing up occasionally and making stupid comments about material that she clearly had not read. Once again, the bane of both students and professors.

    On the day of the final, the classroom was very tense. We knew that the professor did not practice grade inflation and our exam was weighted quite heavily. About 15 minutes into the final, i heard an "arf, arf." Yes, Julia had brought her mutt to the final exam! The professor, with the sternness of Thatcher about to invade the Falklands, walked to our lady's desk and said between pursed lips, "Julia, give me that dog." The prof then proceeded to tie said beast outside the classroom door and we finished without further interruption from the Pink Lady.

    Just another tale in which Julia draws attention away from something important and towards her trivial self. Sort of like her inauguration coverage.

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  28. Yes!! Thank you for today's lovely treat, Jack the Bulldog! ;-)

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  29. In regards to the dorm room painting, having a dog on campus and just about everything else in her life, Julia's "rules don't apply to me" outlook is not cute, or clever, or incorrigible. It's tasteless, tacky, rude and disrespectful to everyone around her. What kind of horrendous parenting led to this extreme antisocial behavior? Julia is a textbook case of Antisocial Personality Disorder.

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  30. James,

    I think she gets these fictional characters in her head and truly thinks she is them, living some story line. You know, to be the cute girl on campus who has her cute dog with her, all is pink and sweet and that's the image she is after. Lately, it is Blair Waldorf with headbands and matching clothing. Carrie Bradshaw, as we all know, was also a persona she adopted -- that is, the NY writer girl whose heart can break.

    She's heavily entranced in being a character. This explains her costume outfits to her make-up. In essence, she doesn't know at all who she is. I think she avoids herself at all time. Hence, the sleeping problems.

    FunnyBunny

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  31. Totally agree, FunnyBunny. But I guess is what I always circle back to is WHAT led Julia in the first place to live her entire life as a contrived fantasy character? It's clear that she obviously has problems functioning in normal social situations, and had problems functioning from a very young age (like the tired old throwing her own party story she refers to in TMI). What leads a person to become so detached from reality? It doesn't seem like it was totally her parent's fault, because her brother seems like a pretty normal person in comparison, albeit a very high achiever. Does this have something to do with it... like Julia could never live up to expectations on her own merit, so she had to act out in other outrageous ways? I see this a lot in her present life.

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  32. James: I agree; there has to be some kind of underlying issue that isn't really discussed...namely, the way in which she was raised.

    Her father is a Princeton grad and a lawyer (her mother, a former speech writer from what I understand). As someone related to a Princeton grad myself, I expect she has had a silver spoon in her mouth since birth. However, because of the accomplishments racked up by her parents and brother, I also assume she has had a tremendous amount of pressure to keep up. This would explain the "LOOK AT ME!" complex she has seemed to adopt. Take her brother, an MIT physics grad student, for example. Coming from a family of physicists, I know it is a huge accomplishment to receive a PhD in physics from MIT. I'm sure her Ivy League parents are proud of him. I'm also pretty sure they have their own reservations about Julia's lifestyle.

    But, in looking at pictures from her past, at least the ones she loves to display on her site, it is quite clear that she was treated like a little princess since she was a young girl. Dresses, mini crowns, the whole nine. She pretty much looks exactly the same now. And somehow I doubt her younger brother received the same treatment. Perhaps this is why he looks like he is relatively stable.

    Sorry for the psychology ramble. I'm thoroughly fascinated by this messy train wreck of a woman.

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  33. Anon 11:04, while Gtown is a great school, it's notoriously easy to transfer into College or the Business School as a sophomore (though almost impossible to transfer into SFS and somewhat harder to transfer into Nursing). I went to a smaller Catholic school not far from Gtown and several members of my freshman class who weren't exactly lighting the world on fire academically transferred to Gtown with no problem. I do like, however, that JA keeps things vague enough ("I studied poli sci!") that people might think she graduated from the School of Foreign Service, but it's pretty obvious that she didn't. What I want to know is how she managed to take Map; I didn't know it was available to non-SFS students. For the record, I got my masters at SFS, but after JA's time.

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  34. I can't help but lurk around here, kids...way too much entertaining stuff! Thus I gotta comment...
    ;-)

    Anyways, back when I first started reading Julia's very first blog, I'll admit that I totally was drawn into her seemingly rather glamorous, fun Manhattan lifestyle.
    I was so intrigued by and envious of this beautiful, educated gal who seemingly had the perfect job((getting paid well talking about pop culture on TV---a DREAM career for a pop culture junkie like me)), had various rich men and other glam females all around her, and who got to go to all sorts of fun parties and events. She really did seem to live such a dream of a lifestyle that it just appeared almost too good to be true.
    I suppose I'm one of Julia's suckers then, because I had no idea what an ugly person and reality was behind all the fab photos and endless stream of fun parties and events.

    And as much as part of me still finds her oddly endearing even with all her faults, it's sad to read about what a shameless opportunist she really is. Obviously she has a healthy ego, but I guess I never realized how sick her lazy stream of self-absorption/promotion really is. It seems to be the reason she has no true healthy relationships or can't keep a steady career going, obviously.
    Can one person truly love onself more than anyone else? Julia seems to prove that theory correct.

    I surely don't envy this gal anymore though...ever since she lost her Star gig, broke up with Jason, started this "business" and then proceeded to lose that Bravo reality show, she seems to have lost all focus and direction in her life. And now she's just grasping for whatever straws she can manage to grab onto...

    Even her body and style have paid the price for her desperate plight for continued relevance---she's certainly no longer that gorgeous gal in the tiny bikini whose future seemed so bright. And while I understand that we can't always be at the top of our game lookwise((I'm certainly not as whispy/fit as I was back when I modeled in my 20's, for instance)), it's sad to watch such a downgrade happen to someone who obviously relies so heavily on her looks and charms to get anywhere in life.

    The wacky Minnie Mouse-meets-Blair Waldorf style she's adopted this past year or so is just TOO much, costumey almost...she's piling on the strong make-up so heavy that even *I* can't defend her for it anymore...and then there's the facial surgery as of late---she's only 28, so why would she need that?!

    So I don't think of her as the fun and glam careerwoman I used to admire and envy...I just think of her now as some sad shell of a once promising young careerwoman, faking extreme happiness by clinging to whatever contacts she can still make or fake, living in a tiny little pink shoebox with her goofy clothes and no real job, no real man, and no longtime friends or family around to at least brighten up her life.

    And how sad is it that a supposed dating columnist can't seem to make her relationships mature into something healthy and lasting? The worst part of it all is that this woman seems to have EVERYTHING available to her, yet still she's a land of wasted opportunity thanks to what appears to be that polarizing sense of entitlement that people who have known her say she tosses around to the detriment of others.

    Maybe she'll finally go to a shrink and get the help she deserves. Maybe she'll grow up by 29 or 30, just like I HAD to, and learn to get serious about real life and love already. She should quit chasing this impossible dream of stardom and/or becoming the next great multimillionaire website founder and go pursue a career more suited to someone with her abilities and experience.
    And if I were her, I'd totally get the Hell out of Manhattan already and start a new life for herself---her resources seem all but dried up there nowdays. Desperately clinging to Zuckerberg's sister doesn't count, either.

    Maybe she'll eventually wise up though.
    Because she's currently such a sad shell of who she used to be...I'd almost feel bad for her if she wasn't this bad person everyone who comes into contact with her seems to assert...

    And looking at her now actually makes me twice as grateful for my own current situation. No, I may not get to speak at Davos or attend Fashion Week or even get to fly on private jets, but I have a good job, a great man and friends, and a big closet that doesn't include unflattering tutu's or goofy headbands either. And I sure don't have to go online for a "business" by convincing the world that I'm a nice person or DELIRIOUSLY HAPPY either...thank God!

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  35. Awesome observation, Sheryl. I know you have followed them and left thoughtful comments from the very beginning and it's a shame they lost your support. Haters and snarkers are one thing, but they should be taking it very seriously that they lost a once supportive person like you. Unfortunately, they don't and they won't change a thing. Completely igorning fans/readers is what I believe has driven their business into the ground faster than anything else. Oh well, their business/acceess/freebies are almost over anyway so what else do they have to lose? Julia's a classic example of giving up everything meaningful in your life for a shred of fame, not getting it, and losing everything in the process.

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  36. What's so great about fame, anyway? We are bombarded with stories and reality TV shows demonstrating just how empty being famous really is. Those who do ride the wave for a bit will eventually fall off into obscurity. They often deal with substance abuse issues, and the sad repercussions of that lost fame haunts them for the rest of their lives. Fame is like a drug and she is addicted. As Julia once said, it's not worth it.

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  37. Sheryl you are incredibly articulate and wise

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  38. Awww, thanks guys! :-)

    Listen, I usually refrain from slamming people online, especially when their chips are obviously wayyyy down, but I couldn't help but express my gradual disillusionment with Julia. And I REALLY wanted to see her and NS succeed, but unfortunately, she's her own worst enemy with her severe lack of tact, drive and professionalism. And it's just been one nail after another in NS's eventual coffin. I mean that place sucks all kinds of d!ck now.

    And Julia's become such a waste of talent, beauty, family money and connections. It's been rather sad to watch her downfall, honestly...but like she cares that she no longer has any legtitimate fans left, right?

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  39. Sheryl, I think she definitely cares. That's why she's all "BOOHOO, I'M SO DEPRESSED!!!" She knows no one cares about her so she's trying to get the sympathy vote.

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  40. Sheryl, You nailed it on the head re: fans. Every star/celebrity is indebted to their fan base and diligently works to build that base. Cue Joan Crawford: "My fans are life and death to me, baby. They're what made me." And Crawford was a talented actor. Julia possesses no talent, whatsoever, unless one considers hustling men for plane rides and crashing conferences talent. As such, and for someone who maniacally desires fame more than anyone in the 21st century, Julia needed to build trust with potential fans, answer the QOTD, act like she gave a shit about anyone other than herself. Oh, that's right, she doesn't, and so we don't either.

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  41. Sheryl, that was some great commentary. I am in awe, very well put. I feel similarly.

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  42. As a lifelong New Yorker (actually, something like fourth generation), I think that what JA and Co do not realize is that NYC is a really small town, and every season a new crop of kids come rolling in.

    It is great to be charming and social and fun, and go to a good school and talk a good game, but at the end of the day, you have to produce. And not just made up stuff on a half baked internet website -- real stuff. You have to close the deal, write the book (and get it published), appear in the play, get involved in charity work, WHATEVER. Otherwise, you are just a goofball.

    And like any small town, all you have is your reputation (socially, professionally, etc) and once you screw that up, it is hard -- if not impossible -- to repair.

    Out of the three of them, I am surprised that Meghan has let herself be dragged into such a mess. They look like a bunch of dodo brains...

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  43. What with all the internets brouhaha, staged or no, over the last day, a post on the Julia of old (who seems strikingly similar to the Julia of this moment) seems rather anticlimactic. Still, I did promise one post per day, and unlike our little sociopath, I keep my promises and commitments.

    The First Encounter, or, Terror in the Public Square

    Long before she became known as an abuser of interns, an advocate of censorship, or a mangler of Hobbes, our lady of entitlement was a college student. Or at least posing as one. Though Julia Allison Baugher did everything in her power to make everyone at Georgetown familiar with her name and reprehensible behavior, I still had never heard of the Pink Lady. I would never have read drivel like “Sex on the Hilltop” to begin with, or have spent my time skipping classes, lying to professors, and turning in work late. Yes, I actually loved university and was committed to my classes, to building a foundation for the future.

    That Edenic fall occurred one fall afternoon when walking across campus with a professor and finding ourselves ensnared in what appeared to be a poorly staged play near the Healy Gates put on by a group of eighth grade girls who had just gotten their Thespian Society certificates. We were walking towards the library when a brunette in a short skirt ran near us and screamed to her posse of morons, “Who cares if I’m dating a senator? It’s nobody’s business but ours!” Said brunette, who seemed older than the other students, was comforted by some Mary Rambin in training type, yet the creature in the tartan skirt ran from Mary manqué and to a tree, emoting for the ages just how much she wanted no one to know she was dating a senator.

    When the professor and I were able to get on our way, he turned to me and some something like, “What exactly was that?” My response: “I’m not certain but do you think that she’s dating a senator?”

    And so it began.

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  44. SO good. Keep them coming, Jack. Have any old friends at Georgetown who are willing to dish, too?

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  45. I came across this quote from a biography on Marie Antoinette:

    "Remember," one nobleman told his daughters who were about to be presented at court, "in this place vice has no consequence. But ridicule kills."

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  46. Oh, JTB, that one was scrumptious! No wonder she brays so loudly all the time.

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  47. Sorry, Cupcakes, no post today. I had to work, work, work at a real job--no dad revenue!--and am exhausted. Away on business tomorrow. Check back next week and savor the anticipation.

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  48. Have a great weekend, JTB! Never thought I'd say this, but I can't wait for Monday!

    (\__/)
    (='.'=)
    (")_(")

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  49. I can haz more stories?!

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  50. Oh Ja-ack. It's Monnn-day...sweetie kissy-face pretty please can we have a treat?

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  51. Does anyone know the story behind JA's former engagement? She seems to love posting pictures and stories about all her exes, but never a mention of her ex-fiance. The Mediabistro article mentions it... Apparently they met at Georgetown, got engaged and moved to LA together before they broke up and she came to NY? Jack? Anyone else from Georgetown know who this dude was?

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  52. Also, can somebody PLEASE call her out on her vicious it is to post so many couple-y pics of her exes, esp. Alex who she has said on her blog doesn't even return her calls and has moved on to date someone he is happy with? For someone who describes herself as such a nice person, that seems like a real bitchy thing to do. He is OVER you. Get over it. Move on. Stop rehashing the past and posting pictures with him and the other guys.

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  53. The Ineffable Alexander MarquardtFebruary 24, 2009 at 4:52 PM

    I also heard one of her exes has/had a restraining order against her. Perhaps he is the never mentioned ex-fiancee?

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  54. I'm curious about her former fiance as well. Anyone care to dish? Also, where are the folks who knew her at Indiana U?

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  55. She used to date this doctor: http://www.cosmeticeyelids.com/wea-doctor.htm

    This is his car she's sitting on:
    http://blog.juliaallison.com/2007/01/pussy_magnet_de.html

    Not only is he a doctor, but he wants to be a rapper:
    http://dontburn.com/video.htm

    He gave her some kind of face operation, but didn't get any action. I don't know why it didn't work out.

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  56. Oh yes, she definitely had some blepharoplasty! That's it. I had been wondering what she had done up there around her eyes.... Hmmm.

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  57. C'mon people, why are we not seeing any more activity on this thread??? It was getting so good!

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  58. Who put a muzzle on Jack the Bulldog? Here, Jack! Here, boy! I've got snausages for you, sweetie!!

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  59. What a disappointment this turned out to be. Know I know how JA's parents feel...

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  60. What the hell happened to Jack the Bulldog? Only one story? LAMEEE.

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  61. Seriously! It's time for more. This would be the perfect time, seeing as that everything around JA is imploding. It'll probably give us some insight into what lame-brained scheme she'll cook up next

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  62. My dear cupcakes, I'll try to get out a classic Julia wonder years moment over the next couple of days. Simply have been too busy! But you'll like this one. I promise.

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  63. Hurry! We miss you!

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  64. Yea, please! Anyone with real-life tales of Julia Allison / Julia Baugher (gotta help bump this baby up in the search engine results!) should be adding them here.

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  65. I went to Georgetown with Julia as well. I dared a friend of mine to ask her out on a date with the idea that she'd write about it in her column. She said yes, via email. The best part was when he decided it was a bad idea after all and stood her up. Not an exciting story I know but guys were onto her years ago. Sadly my stories aren't as good as Jack's though, mostly because I was 2 years behind her but I can ask around to my friends that graduated with her.

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  66. I went to high school with Julia. She looked very different then. She had her nose and her chin done in college. Also, she went from being a feminist in her early years to...whatever it is you can call her now...there are a lot of words for it. She was a social climber, that hasn't changed.

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  67. Also, she was not a dancer. She took the pre-req ballet classes most girls take until they're 8 but she was never on a dance team in high school. She had great potential but has just become a caricature. Also, she reportedly got an STD from a random hunk truck driver. I wouldn't put it past her.

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