Monday, March 30, 2009

Julia: Eight Million Words on a First Date With a Harry Potter Lookalike



First Date Postmortem!

So … I don’t usually do this, but I got the okay (actually, although he was fine with me sharing them, I’m going to keep his name and visage off, just in case. When it comes to the internet, I’ve learned that people don’t always know what they’re getting themselves into, and I’d rather error on the side of caution.)

Anyway! As those of you who read this little site know, I’ve been going on a lot of dates recently - at least one or two a week, when I’m in town. Most of them are pleasant enough, some turn into second or third dates, but no one’s made it past a third date since Ben - and that was last July!! (I say this to give you a bit of context.)

In any case, this wasn’t a blind date, exactly, because I had seen his Facebook profile (ah, modern love), but I had never met him in person. Actually, he emailed me sometime last year, maybe in the fall? I don’t really remember. Hmm. It may have been a facebook message, now that I think about it. In any case, I found myself glancing at his profile, which I thought was a parody, at first. Why? His CV sounds a bit … well … it’s ridiculous. Harvard undergrad (physics major), Cambridge masters (physics), Princeton phd (yep … physics), UChicago professor (guess?). Lest the whole “professor” thing throw you, he’s actually not much older than me, which makes him all the more impressive. Savant-like. I do love a man with a good education.

That said, most people with his background would be - how shall I put this? Uhhh … pretentious douchehats. From his writing, I could tell that wouldn’t be the case. He could banter (check!) and he had quite the sense of humor (check!). Plus, he was confidant and cute, in a nerdy way (check! check! check!). Nerd hot! You know I love that.

He was in the process of moving from Chicago to a nine month research stint in Japan, so he would be in New York for a week. “Multiple faculty at UChicago and assorted flagship state campuses have suggested that it is impossible you will go on a date with me. I suggest we challenge this at will; 7 pm, March 28, Fig and Olive?” (See complete exchange here.)

That was the exact right thing to email me: I love a good challenge.

Intrigued, I agreed to a date.

Of course - as you can see from the exchange - this was a few weeks ago, and as I have a memory like a rusty sieve, I only barely recalled our exchange at 5 pm - today. Yipes! Dinner at 7? In the East Village?? (after I scoffed at Fig & Olive, he had volleyed back with Hearth, on 12th Street. A decent choice, but pretty inconvenient, especially on a rainy Sunday.) I texted him around 6, asking if he wouldn’t mind moving it to 8 pm, and … um … on the Upper West side, maybe? He texted back that he wouldn’t (mind, that is).

At 7:30 it occurred to me that I wouldn’t be ready by 8. Could we move it to 8:30, I asked? We could, he texted back. At 8, still in my workout clothes at the gym (yes, the gym, people. I went there.), I texted him something along the lines of “Don’t kill me, but could we make it 9?” He told me later that he thought I wouldn’t bother showing up.

I did - show up, that is - around 9:15. I wouldn’t say I’m renowned for my time management skills, that’s for sure, but this was a bit egregious, even for me. I apologized profusely, and I think by the time he dropped me back at my place around 3:30 am, I had made up for it. But - yikes! What a terrible first impression.

In any case, since he’s not a New Yorker, I picked Blue Ribbon Sushi on 57th street, which is a safe, solid - but a bit boring, because I’ve been there quite a few times - choice. I didn’t have time to think of somewhere more creative!! (BTW, if anyone has a great sushi rec in the UWS, let me know!)

[Okay, now I remember why I don’t do postmortems, aside from the fact that most guys aren’t that into them … it takes so damn long! It’s almost 5:30 am and I’m exhausted. I really want to go to bed, but I haven’t even gotten to the good parts yet. Dammit!! Argh. I’m just going to speed this up a bit. Sorry.]

Super fast bullet point version:

  • He was personable, charming, witty - and needless to say, intelligent. But most of the guys I date are intelligent; the difference with this one was his particular type (brand? ha) of intelligence. Much more academic than the guys I’ve been seeing in New York for the past five years. Reminded me a LOT of Dan.
  • I enjoyed talking with him more than I expected to … not that I didn’t expect to enjoy it, I just got that feeling - which doesn’t happen THAT often - that I could talk to him for hours. Which is exactly what we did.
  • Earlier that day, David Karp had texted me about doing dinner. I told him I was going on a date, but he should just stop by! I guess that’s a little unconventional for a first date, but I don’t really care about conventions. That said, when I got there, I did tell D to wait until after dessert. He ended up staying for about an hour and a half (he took this photo), until 12:30, when my date and I decided to “get a drink” at Whiskey Park on Central Park South. (I put “get a drink” in quotes because I didn’t drink any alcohol tonight. Although at one point - I think around 2:30 - my date said to me, “It’s amazing. I think you’re drunk on air.” Take that as you will.)
  • Okay, so I clearly enjoyed the conversation enough to continue on, which I don’t normally. But I don’t want you to get the wrong idea: I wasn’t swooning. (No offense, date!) I just liked talking with him. It wasn’t that out of control feeling you get when you’re like, “OH MY GOD, I want to HAVE THIS MAN’S BABIES.” Or whatever. Ladies, you know what I mean. I’ve definitely gotten that feeling before (a few times) but not recently. Or even semi-recently. God. It’s been a long, long time, now that I think about it.
  • Anyway! Whiskey Park closed at 2 am, and we still weren’t ready to call it a night. But it’s not like I was going to ask him to my apartment! So we decided to take a walk in Central Park, which, in retrospect, maybe wasn’t the smartest idea (??) I don’t know, I always feel ridiculously safe in New York, but there was NO ONE in that park. Seriously, we walked for an hour and didn’t see a single soul. NOT ONE PERSON. Do you know how crazy that is?? Eh. Whatever, alls well that ends without a mugging, right? (And aren’t Central Park muggings so 1992?) So. He *did* kiss me there, which was terribly romantic and carefree and reminded me of my younger self (my younger self was always doing terribly romantic and carefree things, or having terribly romantic and carefree things done to her. But my current self … well … that just doesn’t happen as often.) In any case, it was lovely. Mainly because for a few hours there, I forgot myself - and all of the stress in my life - and managed to live entirely in the moment.
  • Around 3:30 am I started to get a bit delirious, and he walked me home and kissed me goodnight (sort of in front of my doorman. Awkward!).


This whole postmortem sounded a lot more giddy than I intended. It was a solid date, an enjoyable date, but don’t get me wrong: it’s not like he swept me off my feet! Here’s the most interesting part - I think it might have been such a good date because I KNEW he was moving to Japan next week, and it would never be more than just one date. Does that make sense? It took the pressure off. There was no need to think, “Where is this going?” It was just “Hey, you’re interesting! Let’s have a five hour chat and kiss at the end!”

I think more of us should view dates like that, instead of the way we usually look at them: excruciating auditions until we get to the “good stuff” (namely: the relationship).

I know - don’t ask me how, I just do - that I’ll be single for the foreseeable future. I’ll date, of course, but I doubt I’ll have an official boyfriend in the year 2009. It’s just something I sense, and my gut is pretty accurate. ;) That proclamation doesn’t come with a value judgment, honestly. It’s not that I don’t sometimes want to fall in love, but I’m very serious when I say that I’m pretty content, especially because being single allows me to spend as much time as I want - doing what I want - and then, a few times a month, go on dates like this!

Life is filled with such intriguing people. Honestly, it’s hard not to be excited when you think about it that way! (I know I sound so cheesy right now. I don’t care!)

And with that, good night to you all.


A couple of notable points here:

a. Jesus, who cares? Was this really necessary? Get. Over. Self.
b. Notice the lack of the push-up, padded bra here. This should silence the "she's had breast implants" crowd.
c. Mentioning The Eater Guy by his first name now. Interesting. A raised middle finger to his past stipulations, perhaps?
d. Again with the tacky bobby pins! Wow. Just wow.

161 comments:

  1. Talking and kissing! On. A. Date.

    OMG I AM LIVING DIFFERENTLY!!!!!!

    Thanks to reader Sarah R. for the idea!

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  2. "I'd rather error on the side of caution."

    Error on the side of caution? Really Julia? Really?

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  3. Dear Diary: I must add the following to my to do list for tomorrow: Review 7th grade grammar text book; learn not to write in run-on sentences.
    Good night.

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  4. Who doesn't love having their date invite their friends along so they can prove they have a date?

    Her parents suck, sorry. The girl is the embodiment of rudeness, pretentiousness and entitlement.

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  5. Jesus woman, shut it already. No one wants to read this screed about your stupid date.

    This. Is. Not. What. We. Mean. By. Content.

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  6. Stop with the name-dropping already! Who gives a shit where your date went to school? In the real world, that has very little correlation to meeting a genuine, honest, loving boyfriend.

    This girl is beyond rude. It is mind boggling that she writes about things like her constant lateness, inviting people along on her dates, etc. and doesn't even realize how rude and crass she truly is. Wait until the looks are gone, and then we'll see how many men will tolerate hours of lateness and moving date locations around to suit Julia's needs.

    Vomit.

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  7. am i the only one who views this guy's "hey im in town for a week, lets meet up for a date" as BOO-TEE CALLLLLLL?

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  8. Jules do not reproduce..

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  9. ME-ME-ME-ME.com. Isn't that registered to Jules?

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  10. Mania defined. Depression post on the way in 3-2-1...

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  11. Late night video confession tonight..bet on it..

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  12. narcissist headbandMarch 30, 2009 at 10:28 AM

    really, i can't believe she owned up to all that lateness crap. rescheduling and procrastinating like that is just so crazy and speaks volumes about her narcissim. if i were that guy i would have told her "forget it" after the second reschedule. and the whole david karp on date thing? pure mental illness. WTF?!?!? why does she put this stuff up? it's like she WANTS us to tear her a new one.

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  13. Pretentious douchehats?

    Pot, meet your best friend Kettle.

    Jesus.

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  14. The dialectic between JA and RBNS has taken an interesting turn. By virtue of the fact that J is pushing all the right buttons, it seems that J is in command of the dialectic now. I don't know if this is conscious strategy on J's part or not, but it's working wonderfully (that is, somehow, she's managed to make you guys sound bitter and wallowing in ressentiment, while she seems a sympathetic victim). Well played, Julia!

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  15. Dating Julia items:

    -Muzzle
    -Shots
    -whip

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  16. Jacy it is quite obvious you care. :)

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  17. NAGE, could you please learn the difference between the words 'dialect' and 'dialogue' before trying to teach us any more profound lessons about human behavior?

    kthxbai

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  18. What's sad is he crazy cute (IMO), intelligent, and probably cool. I would go on a date with this guy, and yet he put up with this kind of shit from a self-centered bitch just because she puts on a wonderbra and lip gloss.

    I give up. Bring on spinsterhood.

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  19. It was mentioned in the previous thread, but since this is topical... here's her date: http://www.santafe.edu/~simon/

    Here's his resume (opens in PDF): http://www.santafe.edu/~simon/cv.pdf

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  20. So the response to her public essay describing every waking moment of (and the individual who sadly subjected himself to) a first date, including throwing in she was asked to dinner by Karp, who's already speculated to be dating/seeing someone makes RBNS look bitter and resentful? Explain please, because I'm sure this will be AMAZING and am waiting with bated breath.

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  21. 11:1o: Silly, it's her DIALECT we resent! We wish we had such a jaunty dialect!

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  22. "Harvard undergrad (physics major), Cambridge masters (physics), Princeton phd (yep … physics), UChicago professor (guess?). Lest the whole “professor” thing throw you, he’s actually not much older than me, which makes him all the more impressive. Savant-like. I do love a man with a good education."

    Oh my God. Reading that made me sick. Julia and I actually have something in common. (My husband's a physics professor.) I have to admit, though, his credentials are pretty icredible. I mean, a professorship at his age! I'm sincerely impressed.

    But, wait a second. According to this link, http://www.santafe.edu/~simon/ (posted in the previous "Jack the Bulldog" thread), it says that her date is a post-doc fellow at the Kavli Institute in Chicago.

    Ahem...

    Julia, honey, as someone married to an ACTUAL physics professor, I hate to break it to you, but a post-doc DOES NOT EQUAL professor. Post-doc is a temporary one or two year gig with very little pay; professor is usually permanent (unless, of course, the professor in question sadly doesn't get tenure).

    Anyone with half a brain, particularly one as seemingly intelligent as Mystery Date, would make the distinction between post-doc and professor. I am pretty sure he wouldn't tell Julia that he was a professor. I know Julia has a tendency to stretch the truth, but lying about SOMEONE ELSE'S credentials to make herself look better is going a bit far, don't you think?

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  23. Sorry, I meant incredible, not "icredible."

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  24. @Anon 11:20... she probably does comprehend the difference between post-doc and professor. She just chooses to represent him as a professor. Fake it 'til you make it is her motto.

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  25. She's has no regard for other people. Blatant disregard in fact!

    (1) Changing the plan 3-4 times.
    (2) Telling your date that you don't like his first two dinner choice.
    (3) Pushing the evening farther back. The man is visiting NYC, he could have made plans to see other friends or visit places while he was waiting 3.5 hours for YOU!
    (4) Have your "notable" friend arrive mid date.
    (5) FUCKING CHRIST YOU ARE SO RUDE!

    I honestly no of no human being that would not only ACT the way you ACTED but then write about it without apology.

    Sorry, but I think this is quite possible the strongest evidence of Yoolia's fucked upness (yes, I wrote that) and lack of empathy and concern for others.

    You sick cookie!

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  26. You are SO right, TJ.

    The fact that this man - who can presumably Google this monster in pink - wanted to go out with her, BUT ALSO put up with such shitty, passive-aggressive behavior speaks volumes about what a total loser he is. Impressive educational pedigree or not, he comes off as a wimp.

    And then there's her apparent lack of remorse for being such an asshole to this guy AND writing about it as if she thinks it's cute and clever.

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  27. What's sad is he crazy cute (IMO), intelligent, and probably cool. I would go on a date with this guy, and yet he put up with this kind of shit from a self-centered bitch just because she puts on a wonderbra and lip gloss.

    I give up. Bring on spinsterhood.


    Don't buy those 6 cats yet. The men who ask her out and date her are NOT the men you'd want to be with. Nobody is dating her for her heart or her mind..and very few are dating her for her body these days. They're dating her because she brings/brought some kind of social proof to them.

    Lodwik - Nerd, taken in by her looks, got to feel cool by dating the head cheerleader. Looks lasted about 3 months before he got sick of her.

    Forman - Um. Let's just say that I think he had his reasons. He totally comes off like an insecure douche bag. Dating her made him seem a tiny bit more cool. And a tiny bit less gay.

    Zincenko - Brilliant guy, dated her for her bod. Looked good in photos. End of story.

    Alex - Mr. Big looking for his Natasha. She was hot and young and he liked having her on his arm. She was his stick figure with no soul.

    Any man who tolerates a) the lateness and pushing back the date b) her friends to hang out (isn't this the second time she did this?) c) the blogging is a doormat nerd looking to date the popular girl. No guy I know would ever let a woman behave like she did on this date. they'd leave.

    This guy was some doofy reader of her blog who thought she was hot. Personally, I find the guys who read my blog then Facebook message me acting like we're chums creepy. They're not interested in the real you, just the one you put on your blog. I don't know any man with self-respect who would want to date the persona she projects on her blog.

    She went out with him for the meal.

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  28. *Julia knows full well the difference between post-doc fellow and professor because she's obsessed with titles. I'd bet my life on her knowing this difference. She's just padding his resume (which needs NO padding) in much the same way she does to her own. Only the BEST BEST BEST for Julia.

    *Also to the anony with the Dialect comment (what dialect do you think they spoke on the date? I hope they spoke the same dialect!)...I'm sorry but no. Julia was really proud of this date which is obvious. Also, she loved the fact that he was on the way out of town and that she immediatly felt a spark---she now can mourn the loss and also hold him a sort of emotional prisoner. I'm sure the poor shmuck will be thinking of her across the pacific. It's all VERY adolescent.

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  29. this is what she has previously written about him. It's on her own blog, idiot(with a picture of him; just search it)!

    JA:

    The fellow above, Simon DeDeo, requested to be my friend the other day. As I currently have 631 friend requests, I have no idea what possessed me to look at his profile, since, to be honest, if I haven’t heard of the person, I won’t “friend” them (again, it’s not me being “mean” - I just think facebook doesn’t work properly if you don’t know the people you’re purportedly “friends” with).

    Anyway, I clicked on his name for some unknown reason, and I swear to god, I thought it was a parody and started laughing hysterically. I mean, Harvard alum, Princeton alum, Cambridge, U of Chicago staff, his interests are (astro)physics, poetry, philosophy?? A quaker??? ARE there still quakers!?!? And he’s wearing a BOWTIE in his profile pic. He even has a poetry blog where he writes things like “Iowa Poetry Workshop Walkout … File under awesome!” Obviously fake, right???

    So I facebook-mailed and asked if he was, indeed, a real person. He messaged me back with the following:

    “I actually do exist, and posses a waistcoat, a doctorate, and massive quantities of self-esteem.”

    CLASSIC.

    This is totally Crush #4.

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  30. Call me crazy, or too stupid to use clinical jargon but the fact that she proudly wrote about her vile and nasty behavior towards this man (Yes, I think it's REALLY MEAN to tell the chump from out of town that you don't want to go to his first two dinner suggestions, and then to be 3.5 HOURS late) suggests a blatant disregard for others that I've only observed personally on psychiatric wards.

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  31. An academic with an ivy league education? What's the big deal.

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  32. attempting to read this post gave me a headache. julia, if you really like him, you shouldn't blog about him.

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  33. Anon 11:33... Christ. Is she for real? That's not living differently. That's living differently abled.

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  34. She does NOT live in the Upper Westside! 57th Street = MIDTOWN. Upper West is more expensive so she tries to call it her neighborhood. She is as close to Clinton as the UWS. UWS = above Central Park South. Can she represent anything honestly? Me thinks not.

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  35. And why does she need to even say that "earlier today DAVID KARP asked me to dinner?" Julia, we know full well that you and Karp are buds and that supposedly he's an investor. "A friend asked me to dinner," is really fine.

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  36. TJ, at least it wasn't "David Karp, founder of blahblahsnork.com and CLOSE PERSONAL FRIEND" or something.

    Seriously from now on any time I mention someone for any reason I am going to use 3 titles and mention casually-but-on-purpose that we are thisclose friends.

    For instance, everyone meet my brother Trip, state college graduate, hotmail account user, Miller Lite drinker, who I've known oh.my.god like my whole life.

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  37. 11:36


    are you kidding me? Harvard, Princeton, Cambridge. Magna cum laude, distinction grade, phd.

    all under the age of 30.

    No big deal? So I assume you have several degrees from the top three/four universities in the world?

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  38. She only invited David because she was probably so insecure during her dinner conversation with this guy. He's smart and legitimately accomplished, after all. Julia probably spends the first two hours of every first date talking about her Tumblr and Twitter accounts. What else does she have? Nonsociety?

    She said she forgot about the date, but I think she's been making an effort over the past few days to look more like a "media personality" and less like a poser who has no idea what she is doing in preparation to meeting this guy. Someone pointed out that her TMI Weekly group on FB has less than 100 fans. She changed her Twitter bio. If she is calling what she does online her "career," it's got to be obvious to this date of hers that he asked out the Tila z-list version of iJustine.

    The point is I think she asked David to stop over because she wanted her date to see that she does have some sort of status in the tech community. She doesn't, but David will never stop enabling her.

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  39. I guess that her Tumblr is Nonsociety now, I should be clear, but her blog was admittedly a lot more interesting when it was the solo " ... And Another Thing" with a simple pink layout and Garamond font.

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  40. I find her constant name-dropping (first and last) really bizarre also. Her own stated premise is that the audience considers her a friend, a familiar figure, not unlike Heather from Dooce. I don't think Heather ever uses first and last names. She just assumes that the regular readers of her blog will pick up on who this person is.

    Julia is constantly writing for an imaginary person for whom she's making a first impression. That's what's crazy and superficial about her blog -- it never progresses from the initial state of wanting to impress.

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  41. I want to set up Julia Allison (founder of NS, dating columnist, media personality and my dear friend) with Bernie Lomax (insurance agent, exceptional dancer, dead guy).

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  42. In any case, since he’s not a New Yorker, I picked Blue Ribbon Sushi on 57th street, which is a safe, solid - but a bit boring, because I’ve been there quite a few times - choice.

    Yes, you picked it because it was "safe." Not because you like going to restaurants where the staff knows you and can give this guy the impression you're actually somebody.

    I did - show up, that is - around 9:15. I wouldn’t say I’m renowned for my time management skills, that’s for sure, but this was a bit egregious, even for me.

    Um, which H & M skirt did she throw on to match that American Apparel pull over and headband? Tell me again what has her so busy that she's TWO HOURS LATE? Hmm..let's see..she forgot the date, she was two hours late...wow, thank god she was hungry and had been living off cupcakes and juice fasts or she never would have showed up.

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  43. If he was hot she wouldn't have blanked out his face. You can see on his website, he is decidedly homely.

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  44. Way to disparage the restaurant that surely gives you free/discounted meals -- wasn't this the same place she recommended Charlsie visit with her boyfriend and name drop her)? Product/service endorsement, ur doin it rong.

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  45. Guys let's face it - she showed up because this ponce was willing to let her blog about the date, and she needs material. What other reason is there? Professor Mouthbreather, thinking this will up his cred with his fellow astronerds, agreed to this condition hoping to get some ass, and Jaba the Slut got to put her Carrie Sadshaw act back on stage for the day.

    Julia Allison's dating life is the biggest ponzi scheme on the planet. No matter. There are always desperate twerps in the chess club lining up to grovel at the feet of a cheerleader, no matter how long she's been out of high school.

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  46. and 12:13, if he allowed her to dish extensively on their "date", he probably wouldn't have minded the photo either

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  47. If I saw that my face had been blacked out I would be a little insulted, especially since she whores out anyone else's face that gets close to her. I get the impression this guy has seen this website, though. A normal person, if concerned, would have just made this a text post with no picture.

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  48. "I don't do postmortems";
    "I don't drink";
    "I don't get sick".

    It's amazing how much she denies the reality of herself. I don't think this woman is ever going to escape the delusional construct she has made for herself.

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  49. Christan:

    How many dates do you think she's either forgotten about OR pushed back and back only to never make it?

    I the # equals the total # of dates she's been on in her life.

    -Kate

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  50. He specifically mentions that he didn't ask her out because he wanted to, he did it because his work colleagues bet with him that he couldn't (get the biggest lamest wannabee poseur attention whore on the internet to go out with him).

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  51. The commenters here get dumber and dumber. Do you really not know the difference between "dialect" and "dialectic"? I assure you, the terms mean very different things.

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  52. "because he wasn't a New Yorker I knew that he wouldn't care that I suggested a banal and pedestrian restaurant"

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  53. "So there you have it! *tweeeeeeeeee* dot com! Cupcakes! Kisses! xoxoxoxo and now that I honored this schmuck with a few hours in my presence I can be sure to tuck him into my mental panty drawer as someone who totes owes me a favor/someone I can use as example that I am know the smurt ppls/pay for a trip to Japan/defend my honour/the list goes on, because I never interact with anyone but I have a growing list of what they can do for ME! Because I'm me! yay! nightnight lololhiccup"

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  54. NAGE is correct -- huge diff b/w dialect and dialectic, though I do think opting for "dialogue" would convey roughly the same meaning and would be a lot less confusing.

    Also think the distinction between "post-doc" and "professor" is a little mean. I didn't refer to my post-doc teachers as "post-docs" -- I called them professors and I doubt the general public draws such a huge distinction. The fact that the guy has reached the post-doc level in physics is pretty fucking impressive. It's his desire to date this monster that's not.

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  55. "because he wasn't hot enough for me to show him off in public, I chose a restaurant where it wasn't likely we would be seen".

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  56. "because I'm a poxy desperate I was ok with kissing him in an empty central park, but it front of the doorman it was awkward"

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  57. "because I have a vast following of people who love to ridicule and loathe me, I am finally in control of the dialectic.

    History is written by the victors! VIVA ME!!"

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  58. Oh! How I wish Julia's first website, the one she started back in 2003 or 2004, could still be viewed. You think the name dropping now is offensive? In her first web incarnation, Julia would post pictures of alleged GU friends with captions indicating their parents' connections and net worth. It was appalling on any level and all posted without a drop of irony.

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  59. "Next week - my date with Vince Schlomi"

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  60. “Multiple faculty at UChicago and assorted flagship state campuses have suggested that it is impossible you will go on a date with me. I suggest we challenge this at will; 7 pm, March 28, Fig and Olive?”

    What an asshole way to ask a girl out on a date. He seems to have the same prevaricating dishonesty in his writing as she does. (I'm asking you out on a date/but pretending that it's something else)

    What a good match are.

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  61. I mean - "what a good match they are".

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  62. Nage: I apologize for misreading and responding inappropriately to your earlier comment. I stand by my belief that you are an asshat.

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  63. Has anyone seen MR's Streamy coverage?

    She interviews NPH, and doesn't seem to know that he's done anything other than "Doogie Howser, M.D." (and he kind of calls her on that...).

    I'm a little jealous that she got to interview/meet one of my favorite actors. I'm more annoyed that she wrote a post, fairly recently, saying that she thought Dr. Horrible was bad (I am not remotely surprised she didn't get it...). She also clearly has no context with which to conduct this interview.

    What an idiot.

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  64. NAGE: "Well played, Julia!"

    Hardly, if Julia were "playing" this, all these comments would be occurring on her own website in the comments space that she provides. There her fans and detractors could go toe to toe.

    That would be a synthesis (and total page hits) worth being proud of.

    Until then, she's loathed and laughed at in numerous spaces where she has no control and gets no pay back. If she has any sympathizers they don't pull any weight here - and if there truly were any sympathizers at all why haven't they set up their own fan page?

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  65. Ok...maybe I'm late to this, but her nose looks way different in this pic than it does in pics like two years ago.

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  66. Ah well, you don't have to agree. But it seems clear that julia is toying with you guys. One way to come out ahead in the dialogue is to make the other side look bad, which is precisely what she's doing. How? By pushing all the right buttons. I think she's a very accomplished manipulator. And she's manipulating you oh so well..

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  67. By the way, I won't dwell on the "dialectic" thing, except to note that "dialogue" doesn't have the right connotations, of a sort of power-struggle. "Dialogue" is quite neutral in that way. Just a caveat.

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  68. NAGE: if her manipulation technique involves making a complete ass out of herself with a foolish, shallow post revealing both her rudeness and immaturity, is it not as "accomplished" as she (you? hi, Julia) would like to imagine it is.

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  69. I have a feeling this write-up would have read a little differently if it was he who sent she three text messages pushing back the time . . . and then went ahead and showed up fifteen minutes late anyway.

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  70. I'm trying to figure this out...so she remembers at 5pm that she has a 7pm date (aside - seriously, do you need more than 2 fucking hours to spackle your face and throw on your american apparel circle skirt Julia?), at which point she postpones the date and instead of getting ready for the date, GOES TO THE GYM, then postpones the date again?

    WTF?

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  71. The listing of the CV as a means of intro for every person she knows or spends time with is sick. Who cares where the man went to school? And yes 11:53 degrees earned from top schools at a young age is perfectly normal in many circles and nothing to write home, or as the case may be, blog, about. And really what does that have to do with anything here? Sometimes a job or degree is relevant to the conversation or situation but I'd argue that it almost never, if ever, is in JA's posts and the public introductions of people she posts online.

    It seems what is really at the heart of it is some need to reassure herself and try to impress others with names. She is obsessed with names. Names of celebs, names of academic institituions, names of media entities, names of wellknown companies, names of media personalities, names of designers ... JA can't seem to accept and be content with herself and others for who they are instead of what their resume looks like, who they know, and who knows of them.

    After seeing some of her older stuff it seems none of this is new though. JA seems to have steadily maintained the same values, goals, and behaviors from her college, and maybe younger, years. The date last night seemed almost like an exact replica of the one she had for her college paper that was posted about here in the past day or so. Same lateness after being at the gym, same changing the time and restaurant, same trying to change the date at the last minute, and other rude behavior.

    This Hoya column is even funnier and more striking in its parallels with the JA of today.
    http://www.thehoya.com/node/1251
    Same obsession with and desire for fame, freebies, fans, and fawning men. Some things really don't ever change. At least if our worlds ever feel chaotic and uncertain we can look to Julia as a beacon of stability and predictability in an unstable world, and as a symbol for steady, undeterred determination over time.

    Partypants, JA herself might never change but her nose has.

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  72. Poor Julia. She never did get over not being admitted to Stanford.

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  73. Or Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Brown.. any Ivy, for that matter. Then beyond that, you have the "career" that has disintegrated into far less than we already know she'd hoped for. Time to start shopping around for options.

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  74. What a sick, sad day! If I were her parents this would be the final, final straw. I'm not a strict step-parent or teacher. I'm very liberal etc. But if her parents are providing any monetary support they should see this as a sign that their daughter is a callous, nasty, individual with shameful priorities.

    Maybe the nuns of my youth got to me---but I always think KINDNESS is most important value and behavior to exhit. Her worst crime: being unkind.

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  75. NAGE said...

    "Ah well, you don't have to agree. But it seems clear that julia is toying with you guys. One way to come out ahead in the dialogue is to make the other side look bad, which is precisely what she's doing. How? By pushing all the right buttons. I think she's a very accomplished manipulator. And she's manipulating you oh so well.."


    Blind Freddy sees the depths of her manipulation. I disagree that her manipulation has accomplished anything significant apart from lulz for unsympathetic online strangers. It's not a strategy that's going to result in any success or happiness.

    The sooner she realizes that she's been reduced to seeking a response by poking a stick in the ants nest of her detractors the better her life will be.

    Just being a loathsome self propagandist with tribe of haters is one thing, Perez Hilton manages to do it. Julia fails at it abysmally, and her mis-steps are hilarious.

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  76. Her egotism is so sickening "hey everybody a nerd wants my pussy and I'm not going to give it to him"

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  77. 11:52 I love this:

    Seriously from now on any time I mention someone for any reason I am going to use 3 titles and mention casually-but-on-purpose that we are thisclose friends

    I would be: Jane, environmental regulator, barely graduated from a party school, lover of yellow labs

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  78. This woman is so disgustingly rude it makes me nautious just to read all about her various self-centered misadventures. And yet I only do so just because I love to hate on this vile excuse of a female. The way she selfishly disregards the feelings of everyone she encounters, the way she must control everything around her, and the way she is so openly, idiotically shallow enough to admit that she only cares about folks for their degrees/pedigrees/status is exactly why she deserves all the public ridicule she gets.

    She offends me as a woman, quite frankly.
    And no, I am not "jealous", I am not a "hater" and I get laid by my man every day, so I don't fit into that stupid little stereotypical box she automatically puts anyone into who publically disses her either. I actually have a good job, am in the middle of getting an MBA, and am in an amazing relationship with my live-in partner.

    I don't have to set the women's movement back several decades simply by relying upon my looks/charms to use both important and less important people. And I'm not a professional moocher making a complete ass out of myself everyday with a stupid excuse of a faux vanity job while living off of my dumb Daddy Warbucks, because guess what? I ACTUALLY WORK AND SUPPORT MYSELF AND MY OWN ENDEAVORS. Gosh, imagine that!

    Maybe in Julia's sad little world, dating is a HUGE part of life. Unfortunately, that appears to be all she cares about in life, even to the point of making "f*ck you money" just to land a rich husband and make oneself appear better to various high-profile ex'es.

    Sad thing is, she's neither hot, young nor charming enough to land any rich man under age 55 anymore. And no man wants to touch any woman that mentally unstable/high-maintenance with a ten foot pole either.

    So good luck with the vapid and desperate attempts at landing that rich/well-connected Prince Charming there, Julia. You're lucky to somehow date a guy more than three times and longer than three months, based on your sad track record, and those of us who know you actually know why. Pity that YOU don't.
    So unless you either get some sort of magical behavior adjustment or a full on lobotomy, I see a lifetime of zany spinsterhood in your future.

    Good luck with snagging that husband in a few years though! Who knows, your ongoing pregnancy threats just might work for you one of these days; when in doubt, just fall back on Baby Mealticket!

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  79. awesome Jane!

    I am Alice, Yahoo Cool Site web award winner (like 7 years ago but still!!!), Aquarius, wino, life failure, and a dear friend of (insert anyone important here and I will 7 degrees of kevin bacon that shit into a close friendship)!

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  81. Do you know what is more pathetic than Julia Allison blogging about her with a Ivy League educated physicist? A bunch of people who at 9 am on a Monday are critiquing JA's critique of her date pretending that they run in circles where being a cum laude from Harvard isn't a big deal.

    I went to two of the schools on that list and homeboy would be impressive in any circle.

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  82. Okay, I will admit, I don't think I have paid for a date in about 10-15 years, a first date, especially. BUT -- I show up on time, wherever the guy suggests, appropriately dressed with lots of funny/great stories to share.

    I don't care if we go to a four star restaurant, the movies, or a walk in Central Park.

    I would never email, reschedule something 2-3 times over the course of an evening, or even suggest a change of venue (unless someone in my family died, or something, in which case I would cancel the whole thing).

    Terrible, terrible manners. Julia -- YOU ARE NOT PRETTY ENOUGH TO GET AWAY WITH THIS SORT OF BEHAVIOR. And any guy who would stand for this/put up with it is a total wus.

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  83. Hey anonymous2:29: no one is saying her date's degrees aren't impressive. We're just saying that it's sad how this was apparently the only thing that impressed Julia about her date, especially after rudely treating him like shit. Would she have even gone out with him if it weren't for his degrees? Because she even had DAVID KARP "crash" her date just to further spices things up.

    Btw, you're every bit as pathetic as Julia and the rest of us for even coming on here to tell us that we're pathetic, so welcome to the party, fellow pathetic one!

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  84. 2:37. I'm chuckling. We are all pathetic! That's for sure. Okay, I'll speak for myself.

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  85. Today I commented on RBNS, where my close friend Total Jing (author of several comments, person who does things, and owner of secret last name) and I tried to ignite a "pathetic" contest to get the comments going! We are SOOOO wacky and unconventional. Having dear friends like TJ makes me SO. HAPPY.

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  86. I am SO.HAPPY.YOU.GUYS. I'm living differently(aka pathetically) with my friend, sister of the Facebook founder, the ineffable RANDI ZUCKERBERG!

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  87. Total Jing and partypants aren't just my fellow commenters and (fictional) BFFs, They. Are. My Sisters. I mean, sure I'll call them out as bitches, publicly and privately, when it serves my purpose, but that's because I. Am. So. Real.

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  88. I am so proud of my friend, sister, and RBNSBFF4EVR smokey cupcakes for having the confidence to ask out that hot guy last night! Most girls her size don't have the self-esteem (especially after losing her job, then apartment due to her drinking problem) but s.c. waddled right up to that AXE model and asked him out! I had to step in, though, when there was a lull, but I promised her I would post about our date on my site.

    I. keeps. it. real. xoxoxox

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  89. I love you, partypants. Even if you are a drunk.

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  90. *Partpants: Can I be your BEST friend? I might even tell you my secret last name, then. In fact, you might be blessed enough to learn my middle name. Let's be ultra pathetic together.

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  91. You know what's pathetic? People like Total Jing who come on here begging me to be their BFF. She must be like, f*@&^g bipolar or something.

    Or I'm drunk again/still. *hic*

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  92. Smokey you can be part of your "Pathetic Cool Girl Club" also. Some rules first:

    (1) When we meet, we shall dine on "A Strange 7 layer dip" ala Momma Baugher. Argula, grape jelly, olives, romaine, cream cheese, and guac.

    (2) You must wear an A Line Skirt.

    (3) Your yaya boobies must be up to your chin. Wonder Bras Only!

    (4) You must own WANGS and Moon Boots.

    (5) You must have 7 degrees, 4 of which are from Ivy League school, and 3 from "Almost Ivys."

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  94. TJ I wonder if JA wore her moon boots on this date? I'm actually shocked she didn't freaking FILM the date and post it on vimeo.

    Also, at every PCGC meeting it is required that you wear your american apparel fuschia circle skirt from 2006, your pearls, and a demure cardigan. Hair must be pulled back with bobby pins or headband only.

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  95. @Total Jing: Yay.com! I. Am. So. Happy. I'm going to go put on a tutu and binge eat cupcakes until it doesn't fit anymore, while I take photobooth shots on my Mac and compose e-mails from my 'friends' about how totally awesome and not at all deranged I am. Toodles!

    Did anyone see where I left my Canon camera?

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  96. Smokey and Party Pants
    You know what's great about both American Apparel circle skirt AND tutus? They have elastic waistbands!!!!!!! We can eat as many cupcakes as we want. Elastic can stretch. Trust me.
    PCGC Forever!

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  97. Smokey Cupcakes is pledging PCGCMarch 30, 2009 at 3:17 PM

    @TJ & PP: OMG! We should totally get tattoooooos!

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  98. @PCGC GIRLS OMFG tatoos for the win! Maybe we can create a Patheticast website - Live Pathetically!

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  99. OHH, I am late to this pathetiparty, but can I join the PCGC, too? I will wear my best Aldo heels, freshwater pearls and age-inappropriate Betsey Johnson dress to every meeting! I already have my tattoo - Live Jealously!

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  100. What people object to is that her date is introduced by his credentials, because in Julia's world credentials are what makes a person worthwhile. Those credentials can either be real, like Mr Physicist or faked and padded like Julia's. Julia has long had a habit of trading off being in the same circles as aforementioned prestigious degree holders and pretends that the status conveyed by them are somehow attached to her.

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  101. You know Mary and Meaghan post here as "anonymous" all the time.

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  102. If you love pink, passive-aggressive tweeting, and enjoy oh wait *CLICK* DID YOU AUTOMATICALLY POP INTO TEAPOT STANCE/BLUE STEEL POSE/NAMEDROP? If so, you can join!

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  103. I'd like to join the PCGC, too. But only if excessive amounts of Botox and Restylane are involved!

    I'll even get a Fordham University tattoo if you'll accept me!!!

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  104. Anon @ 3:29, are they posting pro- or anti-JABA stuff?

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  105. How pathetic and insecure to ACTUALLY go on a date with someone, whom you've never heard of, that 'friend's you on Facebook... mainly, though she will deny it to the end, because of his 'alum' status to various institutions. She knows this to be true, we know this to be true, anyone reading this knows this to be true. I've said it before and i'll say it again: this NONSOCIETY thing is just a public prostitution forum under the guise of dumb, pathetic, manic single girls 'living differently'. She MUST know that she's a case study manic, no? First, she 'responds' to his FIRST initial 'friend'ing. She believes that keeps the ball in her court... it's typical insecure/manic behavior. Very destructive. This poor girl. My gosh. she's WAY too OLD for dating in NYC. Truth, sorry.

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  106. "Live pathetically!". I love that.

    I actually think partypants nailed it earlier - talking about how this is a case of the supernerd looking to bang the head cheerleader. Trust me. I'm a dude and a nerd (while probably not too super) and this is how we think. Yeah yeah - three big degrees from big schools- good job and fair enough- you're a good boy and I'm sure your mother is justifiably proud - but you were still a dweeb in high school who was ignored by the beautiful people. Yeah it sucks, its fucked and its really stupid and thank god it passes but there it is. Only the mentality and the life time spent overcompensating for your low adolescent self esteem remains. The giveaway was the guy talking about "Multiple Faculty" telling him it was "impossible" to go on a date with Julia. Lets all try and imagine how the conversation REALLY went - its not too difficult. Fellas?

    Other reflections:

    Gotta love a man who uses the term "corresponding caveat" in an e-mail exchange, (or was that Facebook? I don't even fucking know) - here's to the poetry club!

    I love it when she has her really creepy, vampiric friend "David Karp" show up to take her picture so she can then post it and discuss her outfit which then goes off into a discussion about getting dressed for dates. You just couldn't make it up - its too hilarious.

    I try to quit this site. I do. But its just too weird. And you know, I'm on lunch.

    Julia - go sit in the woods for like ... I don't know ... three hours. Don't blog about it. Don't even tell anyone about it. Go watch the birds. Run your fingers through the dirt. There is life and there's blogging - you're losing the script girl.

    I know, I know - she never had it. Its just sad.

    Live Pathetically! Takes one to know one.

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  107. I was going to ask JA if she would consider donating her brain to science but than discovered a problem, she doesn't have one..

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  108. I officially elect myself the PCGC random date girl. Who on RBNS wants to CHALLENGE ME??? It's easy! Just @ me with a time and place, and I will spend the evening changing the time and place until we finally make out. Total Jing will take pictures. Smokey will film it. [Redacted] will be name dropped to prove I have friends.

    Tell me why you hate me!

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  109. Smokey Cupcakes is PCGC4EVARMarch 30, 2009 at 3:59 PM

    @partypants: We can totes go to the Kodak Kiosk afterwards to make mugs and calendars to commemorate the occasion!

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  110. I'd do it partypants but I don't live in your town.

    And I don't hate you - I think you're great.

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  111. @smokey yes! and too tight baby doll tees with a group picture on them! We can wear them to totally relevant events like the MIT CSAIL lab's annual mixer!

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  112. This is me turning the power off to this show. I can't stands no more.

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  113. I read this site and yes it is funny at times. Tho I can't help but feel that it's unfair that we rag on Julia for only going out with the Physicist for his credentials. Dude, he went out with her based on her picture and online reputation. Surely its more shallow to want a woman for her cleavage than it is to want to date impressive and smart men.

    BTW, I have met Julia Allison briefly at Tech Cruch party last summer and she was actually really nice.

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  114. You all saw it. My good friend Don Juan (smart nerd guy, commenter, Professor of Sexyonics at RBNS University) wants to date me.

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  115. As a PCGC member, I will not only go on a date with a random stranger I met online, I will also fly them to my city courtesy of VIRGIN AIRLINES, but only if they promise to let my friend RANDI ZUCKERBERG film our dinner using a KODAK camera.

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  116. James, when we met online you agreed to fly me to your city for a date. Do you still plan to do that or are you bi-polar?

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  117. partypants, I still plan to do that but can we push it back a hour?

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  118. Actually, I am still at the gym. Can you give me two hours?

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  119. Who does a girl have not to sleep with to get a Mac Book Air around here?

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  120. Not to niggle a point, but the poster married to the Physics Prof is dead right. There's a huge difference between post-doc and prof.

    The ex Mister Cast is a PHD Prof and I watched as he and his friends job-searched while wrapping up their PHD work.
    Guys who didn't get a teaching or industry job went into...yep...post-doc work.

    As far as calling yourself prof, I doubt the date did. When I was in grad school working as a TA, my students called me Professor, for lack of a better salutation. I never considered that a legitimate title to call myself.

    And yeah, Doubter- you'd be surprised how many people with post-grad degrees are on this site. Doesn't it make sense that J-Baugh would annoy people who have actually worked to start and establish careers?

    Her fans are the dweebs who just want fame and fortune, but aren't interested in a game plan for achieving it.

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  121. James no problem. It will give me time to update my twitter, vimeo, geocities, livejournal, tumblr, livepathetically.org, youtube, blogger, bbm status, aim status, google adwords, gchat status, my other twitter, and my voicemail message.

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  122. Any Long Island University professors going?

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  123. New term for those who get swept in by JA cleavage:

    EJacklesation

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  124. A note to the site owners here at RBNS, I am very depressed that this blog does not work on my Alltel Wireless Smartphone. Maybe it is just my crappy phone, though. Oh well, peace out till tomorrow kids.

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  125. partypants, if you are depressed maybe you should take an antidepressant. Oh wait. I forgot! Members of the PCGC subscribe to the beliefs of our high overlord The Poofy One and MUST NEVER EVER soil our precious bodies with chemicals and medication. Perhaps you should cure your blues by getting drunk on AIR! Delicious, delicious mind altering AIR!

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  126. and remember Poofy One's choice of drink is Skyy Vodka

    brought to you by Skyy Vodka

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  127. Ugh, the fucking "haha, we are doing outrageous versions of the stupid stuff they do!" PCGC whatever bullshit is at LEAST as distracting and annoying as any flamewars. Jacy, for the deletions?

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  128. Oh, I see. If it annoys and distracts some people from the topic at hand, it's cool? But others, not so much? How very Nonsociety!

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  129. @Anon 4:54: Awww! We were going to invite you to our crush mixer, I SWEAR!

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  130. @Miss Cast: And, if I may continue with this point, especially since it's related to the post, my initial problem is not that Mystery Date/Simon is a post-doc. My problem is that Julia purposefully GLOATS that she is dating a young professor (she mentions he's a professor multiple times) when he is not.

    That being said, I asked my husband (he also does cosmological physics like Simon), and the Kavli Institute in UChicago is one of the most prestigious places for a theoretical physicist to work. Based on that plus his academic merits (as listed by Julia) he is clearly an intelligent man, regardless of his work status. And, I have to say that physicists are some of the most genuinely honest, good-natured, and sincere people out there.

    Which leads me to wonder: why the hell would this guy even want to date someone like Julia? Perhaps I'm too general here, but having spent enough time around Ivy League physics grads, even the shallow ones look for a woman with a little substance. Guys with credentials like his know they can have just about any intellectual girl they want and prefer intellectual over appearance, which is why most academics marry within academia. I just find it really odd.

    Oh, and to the person who called him "homely" looking: he looks like your typical physicist. And the fact that Julia blots his face out is SO IRRITATING.

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  131. Take the inanity to 4chan, dudes.

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  132. Sounds like someone needs some PINK vodka and a cupcake! That would be extra Nonsociety of us!!
    You know what else would be very Nonsociety? Deleting your comment because you're not celebrating our awesomeness too, Anon4:54.

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  133. From: Tiffany
    Date: March 30, 2009 8:00:41 AM EDT
    To: Julia@NonSociety.com
    Subject: re: first date

    I completely agree with re: first date outfit.

    I once went to a first dinner date with a charming Rob Pattinson look alike while I was studying in Oxford and must have spent a good deal of time money and effort on my outfit.

    We’re talking Aveda blow out, Jo Malone perfume/lotion/bath oils, OPI nail polish in dress to impress, Jimmy Choo sandals, NARS tan bronzer oil for my legs, marc jacobs shorts, Pucci top, Cartier tank watch, vvs diamon solatire earrings, all chanel and ysl for my face and chanel 2.55 in lambskin in pink.

    and sole compliment? I smelled nice. Next time I met him, I wore Victoria secret shorts and Abercrombie tank and unwashed hair. His verdict? “Lovely”

    Go figure.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Oh, look, Jules wrote herself another e-mail!

    I met some people like this over the weekend and they made me want to scream. Carrying a designer label bag and wearing "diamon" solitaire earrings does not give you class. The fact that you gave a label for everything you described in your e-mail indicates the exact opposite, in fact.

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  134. I'm getting a Westchester Community College tattoo for the PCGC. I'm glad so many of the bunnies have joined!

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  135. Cuckoo Coco Chanel PuffsMarch 30, 2009 at 5:42 PM

    Well, I can see why the Rob Pattinson look alike was turned off. Clearly guys prefer girls who carry a Chanel 2.55 lambskin in black, NOT pink. Amateur.

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  136. XOXO Bunnies:

    Yes! Watched three of Mary's interviews, [ouch] she tried to make the one with NPH all about her, her little comment about how she's the villain of the web. He looked like he wanted to run.

    My favorite though, was when she asked Obama girl what she was wearing, and the reply, "I don't know, it's from my closet"

    Poor Mary, it must have been too much to comprehend, the realization that not everybody tapes a head to toe before they go to an event or the fact that we all do not refer to our clothes/jewelry by their designer.

    While she kept her opinion of Obama quiet, she named dropped Julia to Obama girl! As a matter of fact, all kinds of references to her Bunny Jules, and 'her' Megs...worst case of quitting I have ever seen.

    I would love to know, however, just how much Kodak supposedly PAID her for this.

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  137. I love RBNS so much and i really try not to visit Poofy's site. But, I so so love when she writes herself those CRAZY emails.

    Good times.

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  138. I really dont think JA writes herself these emails. You underestimate how many people like her.

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  139. From her blog:

    Feel free to disagree with me, but I have a sad, sinking feeling that all the time we spend on dressing for men is more or less wasted. Oh, the irony!

    Yeah, you're a trendsetter, Julia.

    Here's a radical thought. Dress for yourself, not for a man. You dressed down because you weren't invested in the outcome. If this were Kevin Rose or anyone else, it would have been push up bras and schoolgirl skirts.

    We’re talking Aveda blow out, Jo Malone perfume/lotion/bath oils, OPI nail polish in dress to impress, Jimmy Choo sandals, NARS tan bronzer oil for my legs, marc jacobs shorts, Pucci top, Cartier tank watch, vvs diamon solatire earrings, all chanel and ysl for my face and chanel 2.55 in lambskin in pink.

    Even the real Rob Patterson wouldn't merit this much effort. Who the fuck puts this much money, time and thought into a FIRST DATE? Label whore.

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  140. Total Label Whore. The list of labels is, well, absolutely ridiculous.

    I don't even want to know what "Chanel 2.55 in lambskin in pink" is.

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  141. "We’re talking Aveda blow out, Jo Malone perfume/lotion/bath oils, OPI nail polish in dress to impress, Jimmy Choo sandals, NARS tan bronzer oil for my legs, marc jacobs shorts, Pucci top, Cartier tank watch, vvs diamon solatire earrings, all chanel and ysl for my face and chanel 2.55 in lambskin in pink."

    Who even REMEMBERS this stuff? I can't even remember what I wore yesterday, let alone on some random first date!

    It may be Julia writing fake emails, or it may speak VOLUMES about the readers that actually like JA.

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  142. Dating: Ur doin it rong!

    How old is Toolia? 16? I have a 14-year-old cousin with more insight and wisdom than this former dating columnist. Better writing skills too.

    Julia, you're a fraud. You can't write. Better inject more stuff into your face, because that's all you have to rely on m'dear.

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  143. The reason that "reader" (sorry, just don't know about this) is name-dropping and was so invested in labels for her date is that she was dressing FOR WOMEN. (Hasn't Mary mentioned this topic?) A girl would have to be beyond dense to think a guy would recognize and/or be able to identify any of that, much less care about it. Emailer has convinced herself it was all for the guy, but not in the slightest. I just can't even bring myself to believe it's real because it's so ludicrous. Because you know, if she were to DARE have Revlon or Wet n' Wild on her face, he would've left her standing right then and there. OPI for the nail polish? Really?! No Essie, Chanel, or Nars? She didn't specify if the VVS was grade 1 or 2. Puhlease.

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  144. OT and random (sorry peeps): PARTYPANTS! I remember you from essentiallyhamily.. p.s., don't you think daddy bau needs to threaten to cut off JA ala daddy brillbucks, she should post a huge dead page with "this was an experiment... for 12 years of my life." or whatever?
    ps. dlisted - rhoc vicki has been threatened, I thought you'd be interested lmao

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  145. yo PCGC you guys cleraly need a style bloger and i am the prefect person for the jobbB! i ware cloths all the time and they are all fashionabel. i am your channel girl!!!

    and i desined these cool bags that wrap around your waist and the bag part is in front. i call them BTFEUNOYF Bags: bags that fit everything U need on your front!

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  146. @ PCGC girls: Loving it. You made me laugh. A LOT. Where can people order these must-have fabulous BTFEUNOYF Bags?

    This so called reader email indeed seems to be either a sad fake or an even sadder reality OR a vicious (yet brilliant) hoax she did not get because "...while I was studying in Oxford ..." in connection with all the label dropping can only be done by a) JA herself b) a lost rich vapid soul at ox c) an admirably mischievous soul who makes for a brilliant JA impersonator. In other words, who of you lot wrote this? :-)(joking, unless one of this exclusive group really did pull it off, so no hate please).

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  147. 7:16

    OMG. I think you're right. I think it's a god damn hoax. The "I went to Oxford" and the excessive to a point that anyone would laugh label dropping is a dead giveaway. Either that or she wrote it.

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  148. Oh man, missed the pathetiparty because I was plastering a vulva on my dining room wall. On the plus side, I guess we finally know the identity of the mysterious Paul. Math really is the key to the universe - minus Julia's box, of course, until you hit that prime number, 11.

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  149. OK- Julia is perpetually late because she is binging and purging. I really believe this. She's not at the gym or oversleeping, she's addicted to binging and purging and it shows in her puffy face and bloated hands.

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  150. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2JR_AmEYs0

    SIMON DEDEO's VIDEO POEM! Totally Creepy

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  151. Good god that guy is hairier than friggin Teen Wolf. Look at those arms!

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  152. Yo yo yo anon657! This will probably be deleted, but howdy!

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  153. i love this site. you guys are seriously the most pathetic, bitter, and jealous bunch of crazies on the net. love the DIALECTIC!!!!

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