Monday, April 13, 2009

Julia: Farewell to a Frenemy




NonSociety, circa April 2008.

What a year!


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A little announcement

Hello there NonSociety readers … So, as some of you may have already noticed, Miss Mary just launched a brand new site, MoreThanMary. (I love the name, btw.)

We had a ton of fun with her as 1/3 as NonSociety, but as Mary’s pursuits will be keeping her away from New York for long periods of time, it just wasn’t practical to run a business together from the other side of the country.

Mary will continue to be a part of TMIweekly, although, because of the distance, we’ll be introducing a new format of breakout episodes, where we each do our own thing (Meghan with tech, Mary with style, and me interviewing fun personalities) to supplement the group eps we tape.

Both Meghan and I love and support Mary just as much as we always have, and although we’ll miss her very much, we can’t wait to see where her new adventures take her! Not to mention, we’re only a plane ride (or a reblog) away.

On that note: NonSociety was never meant to be just the three of us - and Meghan & I will be bringing the first set of contributors on board this May. We have some really incredible people already, but we’re always looking for additional interested (interesting!) people from ALL walks of life to contribute to NonSociety. If you know somebody who would be a good fit, please email nominate@nonsociety.com!

:) We love you, Mary! Good luck!! :)

xoxo
j




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As an astute commenter noticed, it's funny how, of all the many millions of photos Jackles has at her fingertips of these three posing together, she managed to find one where Mary looks like hell. Nicely done, Regina!

And even though I have clamored for some transparency for some time, doesn't it seem ridiculous now that you read it? Three chicks with boring, nothing blogs; one chick decides to blog on a new platform. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Jackles can go on about the "business" as much as she wants, but boil it down and it's just three unremarkable women, one with severe mental problems, who blog and occasionally do the odd bit of boring video about stale topics. The only way Mary's blog will be a success is if she dishes the mountains of dirt she has on Jackles, and she seems too classy to go that route. Unlike Jackles, Rambo won't even tip off rebloggers and Gawker anonymously about her so-called best pals.

What I want to know is where the hell is Krystal? Was Denmark just a joke?

62 comments:

  1. Maybe they really only needed a third stooge for Denmark. Or Krystal finally did the maths.

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  2. Spin control much? Since when is it difficult to run a web based "business" from different parts of the country? I think there's tech for that. Yawn.

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  3. They never announced Krystal was replacing Mary, that was announced here.

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  4. but they presented Krystal as krystal.nonsociety.com at that conference.

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  5. Imagine if you were reading that post and had never heard of Nonsociety before.

    "Wait, I don't get it . . . she's still blogging. How is that different than what it was before? She couldn't keep blogging because she's moving away?"

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  6. Yes, this is obviously spin.

    It is also obvious that NonSociety and TMI weekly were to give the reality show content and that the reality show was the project they cared about most.

    With the reality show deal done like dinner, the remainder is just pointless and boring.

    As pointless and boring as the 3 subjects this shit-show is supposedly about...

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  7. Yeah, mary really needs to scoop up as much of this thunder, and I mean THUNDER (read: disaster), as she can...

    Dishing might help and using any and all resources she got through JA (which probably is NILL).

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, is right.

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  8. Hmm Maybe Mary could do a Julia puppet?

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  9. Someprobs,

    And let's not forget that Ms. Mary was on a reality show about living in southern california. I think Gawker posted the links way back. So, she's always been comfortable with and probably interesting in being on a reality show.

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  10. I believe the "comment of the year" tipster who said TMI weekly is almost done and there are no new episodes in the works after they finish this round. It just makes sense.

    Also, they have been saying the SAME bullshit about bringing on "new contributors" since they started. And there have been ZERO "new contributors."

    So now we have a website which originally was about dating, style, and tech, no longer about style, and not really about dating, because JA is no longer even a dating columnist. And we all know how technie Meghan really isn't.

    Just let it die.

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  11. I like Julia's expertise is no longer dating but interviewing fun personalities.

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  12. A couple of things:
    * Isn't Julia supposed to be back in Chicago this summer? How is she going to "manage her business" away from New York, let alone add in new contributors? If Mary can't be part of NS from a distance, how can Julia? Logic fail.
    * What's with all the diminutives and condescension? "Miss Mary", the use of the royal "We"...Mary escaped Julia, your spinning it that you were her benefactor doesn't quite play.

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  13. I also like how she tries to make it sound like Nonsociety was about to be turned into a HuffPo for cupcakes anonymous.

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  14. Julia has no beat. Julia's beat is Julia.

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  15. mary's reality show, which lasted all of two episodes, was about living in NYC/fire island... http://gawker.com/5004631/mary-rambins-secret-reality-show

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  16. If anything, staying on at NS is MUCH easier than TMI given the distance. NS can be done from anywhere. TMI requires being in NY.

    So the excuse makes no sense.

    Carry on.

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  17. This post is nothing but spin. It's kind of sad, actually. Even with everything crumbling down around them, they still can't manage to just tell the truth. At least the truth would be more interesting than this epic fail of logic. I just don't understand how JAB and MPA can run their "business" from conferences and hotel rooms around the world if MR can't manage to be involved from LA.

    I do, though, wonder why Mary's sticking with TMI. I imagine it's related to the NBC contract, but I'd love to know the details!

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  18. Bunny Bingo, I've heard a lot of addressing girls and women as "Miss Mary" and "Miss Meghan" in kiddie beauty pageants.

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  19. So Mary blogs about staying at julia's--cause they're friends again, I don't think mary will be dishing on jules.

    But somebody should tell mary her black text on navy blue is stupid and hard to read.

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  20. The 2nd paragraph should have read:

    "We had a ton of fun with her as 1/3 as NonSociety, but as Mary’s homelessness will be keeping her away, living with gays in New Canan and Las Angeles, it just wasn't smart to keep her on board. You see, her homeless, unlike my tri-monthly trips to conferences, is an embarrassment because it's a direct result of our failed reality show. Homelessness is not what I was thinking about when I said, LIVE DIFFERENTLY.

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  21. 6:37

    Yes, they obviously had a pow wow about the departure and made the decision that pretending to be "best friends" was the best strategy. A very stupid move in my opinion because both gals garner their most pageviews when their is a scandal a brewing!

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  22. 6:31

    I stand corrected! Thanks.

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  23. Random thoughts:

    "Julia's beat is Julia" So well said.

    Maybe Krytal's one of the contributers coming in May?

    I don't think interviewing is Julia's strong suit.

    This post was total spin. Another opportunity for honesty and transparency lost. Why not just say Mary is pursuing her own projects at this time but will stay on for TMI? Is it really always necessary to try to shape public perception instead of just admitting reality, especially when no one's buying the story you're selling anyway?

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  24. I didn't read it as Mary can't work at NS from other places--
    so much as mary is [choosing] pursuing other things and doesn't want to come to NY for NS--

    Anon 6:32 she also went on to explain that they are going to tape TMI separately

    Quite frankly, while much has been made about Mary's homelessness--I don't think she wanted to stay in NY, so she purposely did not put down roots when her lease came up, she states frequently how southern climates are more appealing, and I don't think it was as much about julia as it was the weather. Not as many chances to show off the bod you work for so hard each day.

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  25. At least Ms. Allison still knows to focus on the really important tasks in life:

    juliaallison: @aplusk - I will dye my hair red if I reach 25,000 followers before Ashton reaches 1 million. And I'll video it. And send it to Ted Turner.
    29 minutes ago from web

    Believe me, NO ONE wants to see that because nobody cares!!!

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  26. Julia will never reach 25,000 followers.

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  27. Total spin, and a backhanded stab. I'm sure Julia had to look long and hard for the one photo where she looks slender, and Mary does not.

    "Me interviewing fun personalities" in the third paragraph should actually read: "me braying over whatever individual I can convince via the power of magical cleavage to be on this program."

    "Both Meghan and I love and support Mary just as much as we always have..." - doesn't exactly count for much, considering that you left her out of NS trips, called her a bitch on your blog, and made numerous backhanded insults at her.

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  28. @ 6:54 And talk shit behind her back frequently.

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  29. http://gawker.com/5210623/nonsociety-becomes-even-non+er

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  30. According to a family member, conflict had been brewing since the inception of NS. MR's NYE yacht host convinced her to branch out on her own when she was called a cranky bitch by a business partner in a public forum.

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  31. Betsy: And then the Vivienne Westwood dress tantrum strengthened her resolve.

    There's the difference, I guess, between being raised with some self-respect and being raised in an environment where it's perfectly acceptable to dress up like a Russian hooker for church on Easter.

    No offence, RussianGirl.

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  32. I have two problems with Julia's post - one, shouldn't that kind of announcement come directly from both her and Meghan, posted simultaneously on both of their "lifecasts"? They are the two remaining co-founders, and at least it would show some indication that there is some unity among them. Two, the post underminds Mary's contributions to NS as a "business" - all that is acknowledged is that she was a ton of fun, and they still love her and wish her well - can't they at least thank her for her contributions to NS over the past year?

    I feel sorry for whoever the new contributors are - if Julia treated Mary so harshly, who was supposedly one of her best girlfriends, how is she going to treat new random contributors?

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  33. You forgot problem three: This is being published TODAY. AFTER Mary has already left. What business runs this way? Answer: no successful one.

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  34. Also, gotta love Meghan's reposting Julia's goodbye without even adding a comment of her own. Classy.

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  35. Meanwhile, Julia is posting more of mama Baugher's recipes. You know, Mama Baugher inventor of the 7 Layer Dip (Spinach, Gauc, Raisans, Cranberry, Argula, and Sour Cream). This time she introduced us to Mama Baugher's faux pie which looks like yeast infection on top of menstrual fluid.

    Yes, I crossed the line.

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  36. Mary probably won't spill any dirt on Julia, because it's almost a certainty that Julia has embarrassing dirt on her, too.

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  37. Anon 8:47: Meghan actually did post something of her own before Julia's "official" statement.

    She posted Mary's intro video with this comment:

    "You can catch Miss Mary on her new home MoreThanMary.com. I’m so happy to see that she’s bringing some friends along to partake in her lovely journey.

    YOU GO GIRL!"

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  38. 7layers - Momser Baugher comes across as being about as fun as a used Depends.

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  39. Trainwrecks has a good point. JA let Easter pass without any obnoxious "bunny" jokes. Fail.

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  40. I nominate partypants to be a new NonSociety contributer. She would be a perfect fit.

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  41. Why is it I can suddenly see JA in a future career selling products on HSN?

    http://www.vimeo.com/4071389

    I held back saying this earlier because I really didn't want to be mean but after watching this, I can't help it.

    Interviewing is not her strength. The compulsive head-nodding, creepy fake smile, and faked and exaggerated sincerity do not make for a good interview. If she insists on being on camera, she'd be much better off just talking about herself like usual than doing interviews.

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  42. I don't think it's fair to judge her on that video... it's obviously not finished.

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  43. How can you not judge her on that interview? Edit it all you like but she still comes off as a fake, exaggerated, fawning creep.

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  44. Anon 10:00

    If you're being serious, I'm not judging on that one. I'm talking about all her videos I've seen. Her manner in the recent one is the same as on all the others ones I've seen. Most of what I've seen was from fashion week. Anyway what's there to finish? Her interview is style is what it is. Editing the video doesn't change her style.

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  45. It's a little obnoxious to ask the editor to cut out two seconds (the stupid "oh") in the middle of a continuous shot.

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  46. She provided pictures for him to overlay. It's not like she didn't give him an out.

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  47. You're right, I was so annoyed by the first part of the sentence, I didn't finish reading it. My bad.

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  48. Why is that sound so bad? Her hee-hawing comes through loud and clear -- surprise surprise -- but you can barely hear the guy who made the scalp pelts.

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  49. Seriously. Did they only budget for one microphone and she got it? She needs it the least. I can't hear the guy who is doing the extensions. What is this even for?

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  50. Notice on Mary's new sidebar it links to TMI weekly under "laugh at me on TMI weekly" ?

    it seems as though shes done with that to.

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  51. "This time she introduced us to Mama Baugher's faux pie which looks like yeast infection on top of menstrual fluid. "

    *dead*

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  52. http://www.vimeo.com/4085446

    the edited version of the extensions interview.

    gotta love the end when she closes out the video and waves her sausage fingers in the air LOL.

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  53. The video's already gone private. If it's because of the mention here someone must be keeping pretty close tabs on this site to be able to react so quickly to the comments here.

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  54. Wow, Mary really does look like one of the farmhands in that photo. Don't mess with the Queen! :-)

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  55. Mary has handled all of this very well. I am really happy that she ventured off on her own. MorethanMary is 110% better than NS. She comes across as a good positive girlfriend. Julia's tone has always reminded me of an affected 75 year old woman who was married & divorced 4 times. She reminds me of an old roommate who was much older than I and still single in Manhattan. Her voice would change depending on the topic...cutsy little girlish around the men and "Oh, darling, you must read this MANUSCRIPT" when recommending such great reads as Bridget Jones Diary.
    I give credit to Mary's Mom as well. The fact that Mary read the writing on the wall and got out of the NS disaster tells me that she has a support system that truly works.

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  56. Don Juan I will send Jowly an email today offering to contribute.

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  57. Ha! BOTH of those vimeos have already gone private. Yeah... Julia isn't obsessively reading here AT ALL.

    HI JULIA!!!!

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  58. No comment from Meghanaise other than re-posting Julia's screed. Why am I not surprised?

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  59. I wonder if the relatively civil interaction between the girls is due to advice from lawyers?

    It would not be shocking if there was some kind of a lawsuit between Nonsociety and Mary. After all, she seems to have some kind of deal worked out with Kodak, and I think NS was sponsored by them in the past.

    At one point there was a post on Julia's blog about a conversation with a family member of hers where she talked about business partners stabbing eachother in the back. My recollection is that it suggest lawsuits to resolve those situations.

    It kind of makes sense that these girls would be civil towards eachother and quiet so as to not risk damage to their cases.

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  60. Anon, you are giving them way too much credit to think their business is anywhere near serious enough to warrant lawsuits, sponsor contracts, etc. It's three 30 year olds who act and blog like they are still in 9th grade. They had a bitchfight, parted ways and took their sandbox toys somewhere else and agreed not to write anything in their public slam book about it. Instead, they'll just go seethe privately in their Lisa Frank diary and hopes the school paper will mention their lunchroom spat.

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  61. Dear Diawy,

    Today we kicked Mary out of the Unicorn Club. I don't care WHAT Elizabeth Wakefield says, Mary is a BEAST and we will NOT allow her to cross lines anymore.

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