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MizSprinkles: @juliaallison why the fuck are you at a social media foocamp when you don't even employ comments on your site. you're a total fail.
Hard to take MizSprinkles seriously when s/he follows Fred Durst, and Heidi and Spencer.
1938media: Reading about Julia Allison at foo camp. Foolia at foo camp. Classic. Christ, she's stupid . Why would she even bother, she no understand.
I've missed all of you so much. I'm sorry that I forgot to announce that's I'd be at TOP SECRET SOCIETY FOO. I can't talk about the conferences because they involve a white board and wiki information architecture. That means, it's TOP SECRET. Like Meghan Asha explained, because the conferences are "collaborative" they are secret. Collaborative=secret. My harmen pant jumper is SOOO comfy. I'm wearing it to bed tonight!!!!!!
Lovely photo of Julia and RANDI ZUCKERBERG at Foo camp - Lolita pose and all...http://twitpic.com/3mk5z -
I love secret conferences. that's because I don't have to strain my brain summing them up in a coherent fashion for my reading public. toodles!
I just don't understand the point of posting picture after picture of Julia posing with web 2.0 click people that she WORSHIPS and secretly talk shit about her behind her back...Dyspeptic is right; awful convenient that this conference is so secretive because we know how Julia hates to provide description and analysis of events she attends. See Davos, CNET, SXSW, Camp Foo, Denmark, Northwestern last week.If she had anything to say and also wasn't such a lazy as, she could write about many things. Her interest in the conference, what she admires about participants, a list of her current questions and idea related to conference topics...You name it. No content, shitty and sometimes stolen and uncredited photos...lame, lame, lame.
11:31 that's like saying hard to take anyone seriously who reads a tabloid? WTF? Voyeurism, it exists. I'll take her seriously because that 'fuck' was loaded and she publically smacked the narcissist with the question on everyone's mind. Everyone was thinking it, she said it.
Dave Morin's insulting tweet about JA:RT @daveman692: OH @juliaallison: "I took computer science in college...which surprises me, because it clearly didn't sink in." #swfoo12:24 PM Apr 18th from Tweetie
She's talking about computer science. At a social media camp.##$*&&*@#HIN#KJ!N@!@.
Oh, Tim O'Reilly and his little harem of camping tech nerds. Except, oh wait...there's a sex columnist at a hacking event? "Exclusive" my ass.What a joke it all is.
Meghan, you dumb ass -- it's cubicle, not CUBICAL.
These 'zomg escloosiv' tech cons are a joke. Unless they are radically different than there were about 18 months ago, then from what I remember they are basically an excuse for tech monkeys to get together and talk about how fkn awesome they are, and get drunk and hook up. And for the record, if Julia Allison is attending your con, it is no longer about tech, and it is no longer exclusive.
Julia is "in tech" HA HA HA. She has a vanity tumblr and posts blurry pictures of airport terminals with one sentence captions. EPIC TECH FAIL.
The sad thing Julia and Meghan don't realize is that everybody already knows they're the groupies that fly around and try to pretend they business women. EVERYBODY makes fun of them, and yes, it was all over Foo camp.
So Julia Allison basically wore that fug Juicy tracksuit for three days straight? EW.
Yeah, Julia Allison talking about "computer science" at social media camp--AND bringing up her favorite topic again: college!
Seriously. This blog is one thing. But going on urban dictionary and all the other websites and actively trying to make her life miserable. Can you not see how pathetic, insecure and bitchy you are? Would you admit to your boyfriend your friends or your parents that you were doing such a thing? Taking 30 minutes of your time to smear someone youve never even met?You all are disgusting.
Can someone please tweet this idiot to wash me? Three straight days against her oily skin and not one bath in Tide. Have you ever rubbed up against grapefuit glitter lotion for three days? Well I have. I hope she loses me during the trip, and a homeless man decides to wear me for the next 8 years. Ah, sweet release.
???? 9:47 - you are seriously inefficient if you think it takes 30 minutes to bash Julia Allison. It takes about 30 seconds. And Julia deserves everything she gets. If you ONLY KNEW just how much time she devoted to making other peoples' lives miserable, you'd change your tune, guaranteed. Pathetic, insecure and bitchy are words that describe Julia Allison to a tee and she's just now getting a taste of her own medicine. No breaks here.
@9:47Well, please give Julia's friends this message too. They are among the biggest tipsters to all the reblogging sites. Including those she considers her best and closest. Julia isn't above fueling the fire on her own, also.
Anon 9:47Hi Julia, Meghan.
lol HI oh wait I mean SHUT UP this isn't julia or meg
Julia Baugher and Meghan Parikh are still on the west coast and even if they were on the east coast there is NO WAY IN HELL either of them would be awake this early. Julia sleeps until noon every day, at least.
Look, Julia's still asleep ok? Caro and Randi laid me across her face, so I know she's passed out hard - my stench could wake up a buffalo on the moon, folks. Trust me, she's out.
Plus, she's fat now. Her sausage fingers could type such a complicated response.
Way to lump an entire anonymous group into one. Sheer genius. Funny, isn't it, how the first and arguably most harsh UD entry was put up a year ago. You know, when this site didn't exist? I supposed I'd inform my parents/friends/boyfriends if I thought my every move happened to be any of their business, and maybe even if I personally had actually done any of the tripe you're spouting. Since we're generalizing and labeling though - you're disgusting too.If Julia Allison's life is miserable (it certainly seems that way given how far into hiding she's gone all these years of putting herself on the internet <./sarcasm>) it would be entirely of her doing. It totally sucks to have to be accountable for your behavior and be told people don't like you. Ohhhh well.
Anon 10:37... Reading your post made my head hurt. Can you retype it to be clear so I'll know what the fuck you're talking about?
anon 1037 was basically saying that the Julia Baugher haters have been around LONG before the start of RBNS and that Julia's current woe is me state of "the internet hates me" is entirely of her own doing and she has no one else to blame but herself. There is one way to stop people from calling you a fat, obnoxious, smelly loser - stop blogging and providing the internet with daily concrete proof about what a fat, obnoxious, smelly loser you are.
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6880/corndogallison.jpgNot as good as the hippo, but whatever.
I just love that every time someone posts one of those you-are-all-pathetic-here posts, they add that it is about "someone you have never met." Ummm, HELLOO! Go back and read it all again... many people are here BECAUSE they have met her... People hate her because they know her. SO quit lumping everyone together and quit assuming anyone who doesn't like her has no basis for the hate.
10:08: She doesn't sleep, remember? She pulls all-nighters all the time, and while she's pulling her all-nighters, she Googles herself obsessively.
Unintentional hilarity - Julia Baugher posts a picture of herself in a baseball cap with the caption ""Can you even spot me in this photo??" Well, yes sweetie, we can spot you. Once again you are the only woman slobbering over a group of male tech dweebs and a conference that is not in your professional field and that you have nothing to contribute to. You are not a visionary, a pioneer or a pace setter in the field of social media. You are a cheesy hanger on and tag along - a cheerleader without the looks. You are routinely mocked and snickered at ... don't you see this??
So I guess it is safe to assume that !!!!!!!DAVE MORIN!!!!!! (whoever that is) is Julia Allison's latest tech dork target?
Why does she not just put a damn ad on her liecast? "Seeking rich/up and coming tech microcelebrity boyfriend/future husband for increased exposure, financial security, and career legitimacy. Would prefer you to be cute enough to make all those fat/skinny/more popular/talented bitches totes jelly, but not neccessary. Email firstname.lastname@example.org"
Ah yes, thank you for reminding me of Julia's sleeping/googling/manic late night video blogging patterns NonDanButClose. (aside - are you Dan's cat, which Julia hates? I'd peg that cat for a poster here) Thankfully Julia's last twitter kindly alerts us to the fact that she is reading! How revolutionary! How intelligent! Reading is a pasttime only reserved for Georgetown grads with six figure college education and no career. Is she reading a book? Her Google alerts? Another Seth Godin paperback? Her celebrity scrapbooks from college? We will never know. Cloaked in mystery, that one.
JA reminds me of kids i knew in college who followed Phish or the Grateful Dead around on tour for a summer (or longer). They'd sell grilled cheese sandwiches and apple juice in the parking lot to get gas money to make it to the next show. And the next one...JA's a little like that, with the tech conferences. I mean like, right down to the pictures. These Deadhead and Phish head kids used to trade tapes of shows they were at ("duuude, trade you Filmore West '90 for Foxoboro '92, bra..") I see Julia at some weird tech-groupie gathering and trying to sell a picture of Randi Zuckerberg ("Southwest Next, '08 buynny! With Sarah Lacey half in the frame too! jpeg, bunny")Someone should buy her a loaf of bread and some cheese slices, so she can stop annoying Virgin Air or whoever for free airfare.
I just hate how she couldn't even get over herself for two days to go "camping" -- she is so that girl who just ruins your trip because she is whining about not feeling well and needing a shower. So was Sarah Lacy not at the Foo? Did Randi invite her? I'm sure she's a bit embarrassed she did. Some sunshine and time outdoors might have done her some good, but no. What an idiot.
Well, Julia basically does that now, flatface. Julia Baugher trades her fading, busted looks for fleeting attention and inclusion. She returns gifts and freebies and tries to get cash for them, which she then blows on airfare to attend tech conferences that she has nothing to contribute to. She should probably just set up a booth outside these tech conferences and try to sell her freebies direct to the public, but unfortunately tech guys don't really need lotions, perfume and Betsey Johnson sunglasses and underwear. However, I think she'd be much more successful with a corndog and cupcake stand.
OR corndogs WEARING Betsy Johnson underwear.
Why does Julia attend so many of these pointless conferences? Does she realize that the people who actually attend these things don't view them as big fun vacations but rather time away from doing ACTUAL WORK? She reminds me of my 7-year-old self and how I would get excited and BEG my mother to take me to her work conferences in various locales only to realize how boring the conferences actually are and that the attendees never have time to enjoy the cities they are staying in. It isn't a party, Julia.Seriously, she works so hard to get an invite to these "exclusive" work conferences in professions she doesn't work in but she doesn't seem to want to put any effort into making herself an actual part of these worlds by working hard on her website and making it a sustainable, worthwhile project.
LOL, this is funny: http://guestofaguest.com/nerd-alert/the-secret-social-web-foo-camping-trip-on-oreilly-concrete-campus-this-weekend-allison-packed-enough-blueprint-cleanse-for-everyone/Oh Julia Allison, you are so pathetic. (I'm stealing Ol' Leatherface Nonentity for Julia Allison, btw)
WOAH! JA is getting BIG - like unrecognizably BIG. Not. Cute. She looks so generic and suburban now.
is everyone taking 420 off or something? this site's slow as shit today. She doesn't look big. She looks tired and dated.
FULL DISCLOSURE - MY LIFE http://morethanmary.com/post/98214737Currently, I am broke and homeless. Wow, I never thought I would write that. HOME: I haven’t signed a lease yet because I’m saving money and I haven’t been in one city for more than 14 days since January! Hopefully, that all ends June 1 and I’ll have a cute spot for Mason and I in LA.JETTSETTING: Travel is expensive, but I am lucky to have saved a ton of miles from my college days, and have parents who enjoy seeing me so they help foot the bill every once in a while. When I travel for work, I include travel in my fee. (This has only happened three times - Kodak, Cisco, and Virgin America for a meeting). If I’m working on a story or shooting TMI, sometimes I can get a media rate, but that’s very rare. I will be seeking a sponsorship from Jet Blue, Virgin America, Continental, or American airlines because travel is ridiculously expensive and these are my favorites. (Although if Frontier flew everywhere, I would be knocking on their door too.)WARDROBE: These days I do pull from showrooms and return clothes for events and shoots. Which I would actually think you would like because I introduce you to new brands, AND you get really annoyed when I wear something too often.My mom’s store is actually my favorite place to shop. Of course she gives me a discount (which she does for pretty much anyone who walks in the door), but remember, resale stores take clothes on consignment, so if I take something, the owner of the piece has to get paid.FOOD: For the past 6 months, I haven’t been able to afford lavish nights out, and I’m grateful to friends who treat me to a cocktail or dinner. Usually if I go anywhere notable, I’ll write a review to let you know if it’s worth your time and money. Despite whether I actually pay the bill, I know money matters so I always take that into account when I tell you my experience. If the restaurant comps my meal, I always state that they invite me and thank them for their hospitality. BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN I WRITE A FAVORABLE REVIEW. Click here to see my experience with Marc Forgione of Forge.Everyone always asks about my experience with BluePrint. Yes, they give me free juice but we have no written agreement that I have to write about the juice, website, promotions, or brand.MONEY: How do I afford to do stuff? Perhaps you’ve heard of credit cards. Well, the reason I have no money is because I am currently paying them off and still trying to live a life that makes me happy. Uh, yeah, not smart or easy. So in the last year, I’ve transferred balances to No Interest cards I don’t use, and just recently cut up my last official credit card. (I keep the Neimans one in case of emergencies.) I’ve learned my lesson and now I’m cleaning up my act. INCOME: Currently TMI is making money, yay! But I will also be exploring new opportunities. In terms of the blog, I would like to get two additional sponsors on board. My wish list: Jet Blue, Dell or Sony, and a car company that I love. These are things I enjoy using in my life everyday and facilitate my mobile lifestyle you love to check in on. I’m also looking to produce a new web series. I have a handful of ideas I’ve been pitching to different content producers and I’m excited to start a new project. BOTTOM LINE: I think I’ve pretty much spelled it all out for you here. So from now on, please let my finances be my business. I don’t go through your check book or question your choices. So if I want to buy a pair of shoes I can’t afford, say tisk tisk to yourself in acknowledgment that’s not what you would have done and respect the fact that I can make a decision for myself….wether it’s good, bad, or f-ing stupid. We all make mistakes, but the most important part is that we learn from them.I’ll try to do one of these posts every month so you can see how I’m doing in terms of personal progress. Some of you have a genuine concern in my well being and I truly appreciate your support.
If you're bored as hell over here (because Julia has been tragically boring as of late), Mary posted a pretty interesting post on her blog regarding her income and money. This is my favorite part: "INCOME: Currently TMI is making money, yay! But I will also be exploring new opportunities. In terms of the blog, I would like to get two additional sponsors on board. My wish list: Jet Blue, Dell or Sony, and a car company that I love. These are things I enjoy using in my life everyday and facilitate my mobile lifestyle you love to check in on. " Her main goal is an airline sponsor for free flights, an electronics company for free tech and a car company sponsor for a free car. For blogging about how to do a push up??? Har dee har har. And I want a gold plated toilet.
Whatever, at least she's addressing the issue. That's much better than sticking your head in teh ground like the other two.
Mary, how about free brain surgery??
Yay Mary! Two dense posts in a row that answer questions that we've wondered aloud for a year. Say what you will about her, but she at least shows some class and earnestly responds to feedback.
I really am Team Mary more and more every day.
Hah and somehow BrigitteDale managed to score a free car by doing the Fiesta Movement and generally being an entertaining and content-driven video blogger.Take a note, Mary. When you are talented, you get free stuff. When you are not talented, you end up homeless. Like you.
I fail at commenting. I forgot to add this link: http://twitter.com/brigittedale/status/1559109257
How is TMI making money?
@Anon 3:02 - um, from ad sales and their contract with NNN. How is that not obvious?
I thought they no longer had a contract with NNN?
I believe the rumor is that the contract will expire soon, or that it calls for a certain number of episodes but no more. They would still probably be getting paid until it runs out.
If they make any money at TMI, it's a pittance. NNN gets a cut and they are not even filming at their studios any longer. They are cramming in filming 6 or 8 episodes at a time because it's all wrapping up soon, probably in June when Mary moves to LA.
She is keeping her NM card for emergencies! That Mary is my kind of gal! (Not snarking; I think she is funny.)
Right, which is why Rambin peaced-the-fuck out. The NNN contract for TMI episodes was the only thing that made Nonsociety even close to a business. Sticking around after it expires would be like a Circuit City employee continuing to go to the closed up store everyday and stand behind the counter despite the fact that they are out of business. Julia's "I thought we were in this together" tweet is particularly hysterical in this context. You mean you thought your business partner was so dumb that she would stick around no matter what, even after the "business" proved to be an unmitigated failure? If you really thought she was that stupid, you shouldn't have gone into business with her in the first place.
That's very respectable of Mary to come clean like that but it's hilarious that she thinks she has a chance in hell of getting free cars, flights, etc.
3:21Previously, I would have agreed but she got a Kodak deal. I have a hunch that Mary is very good at schmoozing and representing her "product." It's not my cup of tea but I don't think it's awful either.
This thread has me wondering what on earth any of us would get a sponsorship for if we could? Besides James' golden toilet.
Yeah, but what is her "product?" Talking about places she likes to shop, her workout routine and her dog? Sorry, but she might get a few curious onlookers from the Nonsociety debacle, but that's not enough to sustain long term viewership and page views that can snag big dollar sponsors like that. She might get some free clothes and lip gloss like when at NS, but no one is going to give her a free car for that painted turd of a website. Yeah, it's leaps and bounds better than Nonsociety but it's still a mediocre lifestyle blog.
Oh how Mary's baby steps in learning, growing and evolving must STING Julia Baugher, The Girl Permanently Stuck in Her Freshman Year of College.
BB, I hear what you're saying, and it makes me curious how she hooked Kodak in the first place. I assume she didn't just write a post saying "I love Kodak, I would like them to sponsor me." (Team Rambo can tell me whether that happened or not.) But if it involved real, actual work I feel forced to hate Mary just a little bit less.
Nothing against Mary, but her blog reads like twenty something's version of "look at my cat" posts by tweens. Her life isn't interesting and her insights are pedestrian. Julia at least offers a spectacle: an aging, angry, self-absorbed, talentless suburban kid who's totally oblivious.
ok. Cheers for Marty's honesty.And I wish her well.What interests me though is what gives a non-writer, media novice the confidence she can do this. While her new site is 900-times better than NS, and has more and better content, that's not saying much. It's not ground breaking. And she is a tough draw. Honestly her new site? (i liked the how-to on push-up , honetly becuase I was just arguing with someone about this. But I could have found that elsewhere on the 'net).Her website is goop, right? But without Gwyneth Paltrow, right? It's Altoosa Rubensteins' stupid power kitty thing - withouth a former editor running it. It's what nonsociety wanted and failed top be - which sounds and looks like an online women's magazine. Correct me if I'm wrong here.
Anon 3:43 at least Mary doesn't scamper about in Shirley Temple outfits taking pictures of herself hugging monchichis while taking conference notes in her Emily the Strange notebook LIKE SOME BLOGGERS.
3:44, Mary's blog's resemblance to GOOP is how I chose my name....
Marty! Ha! Yea... that is my major issue with Mary's blog, too anon 3:44. Yes it's better than Nonsociety but it's nothing special or unique enough to warrant free plane rides, goodies and payment. And there is no central theme - it's like, hey, here is who I am, what I do, what I use and you should use it, too. She claims her dedicated following laps up her recommendations, but a bazillion other blogs can claim the same thing. No big whoop. Or no big goop.
Product sponsors are realizing the importance of one to one marketing and word of mouth marketing. That's where they're "spending" their money. Print media is dying so print advertising doesn't work. E-mail advertising is POINTLESS because of all the spam, radio advertising is dying because terrestrial radio is dead and satellite radio has few commercials, advertising on TV is also less reliable now that so many people DVR shows and F through commercials. The only thing left is to get a spokesperson or generate word of mouth advertising.AXE contacted me last week to do an ad campaign with them. Illustradent has given me a few thousand dollars worth of free dentistry plus free veneers. A designer wants me to organize a spa event at her show room and will give me a few hundred dollars worth of clothes. You don't have to be Ashton Kutcher to get big name sponsors. You just have to have access to a decent sized market. That could be 5,000 or 50,000 people. I think Mary is dreaming big to think she can get a car or airline sponsor, though. Mary has decent traffic due to Gawker and Nonsociety. If she keeps up the way she has been she could get an airline or car company, but not at this point.
juliaallison: It's a bright & sunny morning here in SF - Megs & I are on our way to FACEBOOK for lunch!about 2 hours ago from web ZOMGWTFBBQ!!!!! U guyz she is on her way to FACEBOOK!!!111 for LUNCH!
OH WOW, SHE IS SO COOLLLL!!!!!!!1!!! You think she'll spend hours talking to RANDI ZUCKERBERG about the state of NEW VISUAL MEDIA IN THE TECH COMMUNITY over lunch too? OMFG her life is soooooo crazy! I'm JELZ!!!
I'm all about seeing Mary succeed and I do appreciate her ongoing attempts to improve herself blogging-wise, but I still don't see how she's any more special than any other regular blogger. How in the Hell does she think she can someday warrant free cars and plane rides regularly? Just sounds like yet another vain attempt at living the good life simply by doing whatever you like all day and then sponging off of others, courtesy of the Julia Allison School of Self-Promotion/Freebies to me.I think Mary is almost as annoying as Julia Allison, honestly. They're both known bitches. But Mary isn't lazy and at least works hard to keep some sort of attainable goals for herself on the professional horizon, so I give her kudos on that end. She listens to her audiance too. Also, she appears to have real friends who genuinely seem to like her, as opposed to Julia "Strategic Relationships" Allison and her faux friends/acquaintances.So Hell, if Mary ends up somehow getting paid in a free car or two, more power to her. Better her than JA.
Anon 4:31 - so you're saying Mary Rambin should get a car and some free flights just for setting a goal to post five workout tips in a day instead of just one workout tip in a day and for being less of a lazy bitch than Julia Allison? Where the hell do I sign up for that????
Yeah, to all that. But what we do think about the other one these days? What's her name??? "I forgot she existed, I remembered, and I was annoyed" still has me lol-ing!
The only way Mary becomes successful at blogging is content that she cares about to interact with the audience..When she had her purse line at least she had somethng that hse felt comfortable in interacting with the audience..This made up oh we came from nothing and now we are living differently no one buys..
@Christian, that's sweet but unless you auction off that free stuff, it's not a business.
@11:11AM Dave Morin is happily ensconced in a long term relationship with Brittany Bohnet. She was with him at the BiCurious Brithday Party, (she presented Randi's cake to her) and she was at Foo Camp (see her shucking Oysters with MA on NS site). JA is not his cup-o-tea, he likes the feminine type. XO
@ ChristianThanks for sharing your experience. It makes sense to me. I agree with all; a car might be a reach especially in this market but maybe in the future. Airlines love word of mouth advertising and know it works and are not adverse to new media. I don't think that's such a reach. Plus, comping her flights every now and then is not a big deal at all. It's pennies to them.
"It's pennies to them" is a sentiment that held court a few years ago but certainly not now. With slashed budgets, huge corporations are not going to listen to the sales pitch from one small potatoes blogger, no matter how important word of mouth marketing is. Mary is competing with thousands of other outlets. I'll eat my words if she gets hooked up with a free car or flights, but in this economy I doubt companies are even going to throw around pennies like that.
*It's still pennies to them, 5:58. She has no entourage or family to fly with her. She's 1 person who needs flights 2x a month at this point (on average). They'll limit her to flights that aren't over booked and demand flexibility. She won't get business or 1st class either. Giving a girl a coach seat that would otherwise be empty in return for word of mouth blog advertising is a net gain.The car is another story.
That's just it. They aren't spending anything to give these women free products. That's the beauty of it. Car companies allot a certain number of vehicles to give to sponsors or donate. Airlines are in desperate need of advertising, so they'd be thrilled to give Mary some free tickets here and there. Word of Mouth advertising is where it's at now. A lot of products/merchants are turning to online personalities and blogs to promote their services. It's basically free advertising.
I'm sorry about misspelling your name, Christan (Not I), like Kristen.
It's so funny to see this convo going now because this was happening as well in about.. 1999. I was young, but did something similar. Not really that big of a deal but if you're not putting out something of quality it won't last long. I'm not sure her site is there yet as far as cars go. :D
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