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Is Loren Feldman going too far with the comments he's making towards Randi? http://twitter.com/1938media
Sorry guys - I didn't realise you broke this one.
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Off topic, but for a good chuckle, look through some of the 183 Nonsociety fans on Facebook. In the first 4 pages I think there's one American female. (I stopped there.)
NOT! That there is anything wrong with that...but going on the assumption that their demographic are 20-something, "western" females
Sorry, that comment was off topic. Anyway, to be fair I might have tried to friend her like a year ago, while drunk, or in a coma. Because I honestly do not remember putting a friend request to her.
Anonymous,No Im not. Fuck Randi Zuckerberg.
I can see her having huge numbers of friend requests but would imagine a HUGE chunk of them are from the drooling minions who were mesmerized by the boobies and the photoshopped cover of THAT magazine. If you search on twitter for @juliaallison you'll see plenty of ridic comments from guys JA would never give the time of day to in real life. Of course JA would have you believe her fans were people like her BFF Ashton. I'm LOVING Loren's twitter comments today - he's awesome and if Randi gets her feelings hurt it serves her right. JA might kiss her ass and send her cupcakes but that doesn't mean the rest of us do.
HA! I just followed him, thanks anon!
Hey Loren!Why are you calling her ugly betty and attacking her looks?Attacking her shitty practices seems appropriate- but her looks?
AnonAre you kidding me? Really? Im attacking her looks because she is fucking ugly thats why. Im not as high browed and as smart as some of you guys here. I think she deserves to be called ugly because that's how shes acting, that and the fact that she actually, ya know, is.
Hey guys - Julia just emailed me. She claims we got the numbers wrong, but she admits to doing it.Can anyone help me out? Does anyone know what the exact numbers were before and after the firstname.lastname@example.org
Milo - she messaged me saying I sent her a friend request. She also once claimed she never had facial injections, that she is a tech geek, that she has only put on 10 lbs.Don't interact with her. She is poison. Say thanks and end the exchange.
Milo Yiannopoulos seems like a principled, classy guy. He quickly updated crediting RBNS for the scoop. Gotta love online journalism for its transparency potential.Unless, of course, you are faux-journalist Julia Allison.
Julia Allison is ALL over this story trying to do damage control. I'm pretty sure I encountered several of her comments here last night--I don't often have my Pink Lady radar go off, but I believe she was managing and buffing the facts and the narrative in this space.
Wow!Loren is on FIRE today!8)
Here's what I sent her:Hi Julia,Thanks for writing.Can you show me anything that proves it was only 2,500?I think converting your friend requests to fans is unacceptable regardless of the numbers, and it's an abuse of your friendship with those close to Facebook. But if I've got the numbers wrong I'd be happy to issue an immediate correction.All best,Milo
Loren, you're not such a doll yourself. http://farm1.static.flickr.com/221/523314001_ef73c33870.jpg Oh sooo sexy. CANNOT CONTROL MYSELF. Vomit.And yes, only pretty people can call other people ugly. It's kind of a rule. So partypants and LF. Time to stop.
Milo, the RBNS discovery of Ms. Allison's faux pas is documented in the comments under the Thursday, April 23, 2009 post "Tweets of Greatness". It was there that someone first pointed out jump from 500 fans to 17,000. (Not sure if 500 was a guess or not, but the entire conversation is there.)
Let's see a picture of you then, jackass.
Umm, partypants is adorable!
Anonymous,Sure an anonymous commenter on a goof sight is going to start telling me how to do my thing. Um yeah. Relax if you dont like it,there is nothing you can do about it anyway.
Hey again, Loren. Fair enough. I'm not 927- just to clarify.You like Meghan, right? But wasn't she part of the "scheming" meeting too?Do you know why she's sticking around the sunk ship that is NS? Or are you guys just aquaintances?
9:27 Thanks for the input JA, I see you are tweeting at the unreasonbale hour of 9AM. What has you up so f'n early? Worried Mark will tell his sister to finally cut you off?
Hey JA, better double that cupcake order to two dozen you big spender you! Have a great day! XO
hey Jacy, I fixed the picture.http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/8903/juliasurroundedbyfans.jpg
Anon 9:38 big words coming from an obese housebound living in mom's basement reading anime.OH SNAP
Team Partypants! I think she's quite cute.
And to think only last week I was thinking that NonSociety and Julia Allison had become so utterly, repetitively boring that I could not bear to follow the soap opera that had once given me such cackling pleasure.Now this.
GF is pure media kryptonite.
Julia just sent me this:http://yiannopoulos.net/images/ja.pngWhat do people make of it?
I am so tempted to do a Johnny from "Airplane!" and say "I can make a hat, or a boat..."
@Milo: It only goes back as far as the 16th. She's just showing you the second (third? fourth?) round of friend request-to-fan status conversions. Maybe Jules did miss out on her calling as a member of the present Administration.
Julia has been deleting comments from her fan page like crazy. Any of you bunnies on top of this?
I blasted her at her page earlier. I'm sure it's gone now though. Yes, as a former fan and all((still embarrassed about that!)), I befriended her once. But I have severe issues with her shady "scheming" and am quite upset about it---talk about taking advantage of folks thanks to her and her pathetic connections. I hope this blows up in her and Randi's face's tenfold.THEY SUCK.
Oh party pants. If you only knew. ;)
Some more updates here:http://is.gd/ugqd
She's erasing the bad comments in her wall. Unless i dreamed i read them.
Run, rabbit, run! Julia Allison now in full Little Dutch Boy mode, trying to plug the ever-growing number of leaks in the dike of public opinion. That chart is laughably out of context. If it went back a month or 2, all would be apparent.
Milo - I'd look at this:http://www.allfacebook.com/statistics/pages/julia-allison/8656939666/
I love lauren. Milo, you're awesome too. This is a big deal and it's only Allison and her cronies coming on here to defend her. I have that on good word. Facebook is joke.
Anonymous said...Oh party pants. If you only knew. ;)April 24, 2009 10:01 AM Oh Julia, if only I gave a shit.
Milo between her meeting with Randi at Facebook and yesterday, Julia suddenly had 2,000+ fans OVERNIGHT. Previously she was stagnant with no new fans in over a week or so. Check out allfacebook.com
I meant to address that comment to Milo, not write him in as part of the sentence. sorry.
TJ, I agree. I don't care what they want to spin it as, this basically amounts to spambotting.
here's the question: why does she even HAVE cronies??? what's in it for them? from what i've seen over the past months since i came across her, it has become very clear that this person has absolutely NOTHING to offer.
And how did she go from less than 500 on April 6th to an additional 14,000 (!) in one week. (Just about the same time she announced on her blog that she was going camping with Randi in SF! Coincidence?)
Anything For Attention v2.7.31http://gawker.com/5225447/rosie-odonnells-screaming-match-tattled-on-by-julia-allison
On who's good word that it's only Julia's cronies coming to defend her, TJ?I think there is only one pro-Allison comment on this thread anyway.I wrote 822, 903 and 935. I was just wondering why so hard on Randi's looks, not supporting JA- do you think that's crony-ish?Just curious!
I've never said a thing about Randi's looks.
anon @ 10:20 - She can be very charming, I'm sure. Some people like to have their ass kissed on both cheeks & in the coin slot.
Nor I. And as far as Jowlia, I think most of us just agree that she dresses like a retarded 8 year old and has a bloaty face - so I guess I don't understand where the sudden counteroffensive about who is/isn't ugly is coming from.
YAY! I am so GLAD that her tattling on Rosie was reported! I hope it lands in US Magazine and Rosie & Kel drop by with a little casserole for their concerned neighbor!!
That's not what I meant- sorry.I don't even know who to clarify my thought- so never mind- carry on!
Ah, the rich irony. Just checked out @davemorin's web page, upon which one of the "schemers" with Randi Zuckerberg and Julia Allison describes what he does thusly:"I work at Facebook on Platform and Connect.We're giving you the power to connect, share, and be open."Be open, dude? Not so much. Try "be shifty, underhanded and disingenuous."
Loren Feldman started it above by referring to Randi as Ugly Betty. Anon 8.22, 9.03, 9.35 and 10.26 then took offence at that. Commenter tiff ensued and commenter 8.22 etc. then felt pigeonholed as one of JA's cronies by the comments that followed later.I, on the other hand, think that no time should be wasted with this nonsense.Not affiliated with any of the anons mentioned above.
She had a MASSIVE jump of friends in earlier april, prior to the 2,000 plus overnight, when Randi put her in the "suggested fan" email/newsletter that is sent to EVERY SINGLE member of Facebook. From that initial "suggestion" she gained 13,000+. Then Randi helped her by converting her friend requests into fans (something that facebook users CANNOT DO ON THEIR OWN)...That's the issue. Julia got Randi to convert friends into fans. That's the scheming she was discussing.
@Dys: That could be Julia's new tag line: Julia Allison Baugher - Shifty, Underhanded and Disingenuous Since 1981
Wait. I never received such a newsletter/email. Does this only go out to US members?
Hi Milo! Thanks for dropping by!
I hated Facebook before this fiasco, but now I'm actually disgusted.Everyone is cumming all over the place about social media, but, you know what, Ashton Kutcher garnering 1million followers on Twitter didn't mark some societal evolution of consciousness. The next day, Kutcher went back to being the C-list celebrity that he is - a celebrity that turned to social media because it required narcissism, but not talent - and CNN didn't go bankrupt. Just look at Myspace! Oh, how the mighty have fallen. Julia Allison is a drop in the pan. Remember that Myspace whore "Forbidden?!" She was EVERYONE'S friend, was put on the cover of Playboy, and the cover of the Myspace CD. Where is she now?! Internet fame has never converted itself into conventional fame - with its conventional benefits. The cuppycake chubster-of-love is more famous than Julia, and even he will never truly cash in.Also, while I am the kind of person to usually disagree with Loren's attacks on Randi Zuckerburg's appearance, I see no problem with it.Some (vain, self-important) people are impervious to criticism about anything but their appearance. Randi might be able to blow off talk of her immorality, lack of transparency, and 69-ing Julia in front of the Facebook snack layouts, but she can't ignore the obvious.
And by the way, I find Loren Feldman SMOKING hot, for whoever tried to compare him to Randi OMG OMG OMG OMG Zuckerberg. Carry on!
Allison, an internet protocelebrity whose haters watch her as closely as her fans, has written publicly about sharing an apartment building with O'Donnell before, including this tweet about Rosie leaving her door open, which we picked up. The bit of trivia has also popped up in the comments sections of various blogs and newspapers. Hahaha...how fucking pathetic are you people.
Julia's getting into it w/other Gawker commenters!
Jacy: The telegraph blog guy acknowledges RBNS now. Maybe it's time to acknowledge his acknowlegment in return?
HAHAHA! Yes 1032, Thank you. You clarified my thought.And yes, no more time should be wasted on my fuckery. I'm a sensitive bitch, so I felt bad for Randi. Carry on!
Anon10:40: Thankfully, not nearly as pathetic as Jackles.
Hey Jacy:You should update this post to show that Milo gave RBNS credit for breaking story yesterday.
Milo, you are REALLY hot. Booking plane tickets to London... NOW.
Seriously, Milo is cute as hell.
It has been suggested that the earlier increase is due to Allison being connected with quarterback Jay Cutler over that weekend. But this seems unlikely. She was spotted leaving a club with him at 2am on April 12, whereas the graph starts shooting up on April 8.http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/milo_yiannopoulos/blog/2009/04/24/randi_zuckerbergs_friend_julia_allison_mysteriously_gets_18500_new_facebook_fans_overnight(see update 7)
@Milo, You should do a story on her long history of lying, plagiarizing, etc and why these tech companies and people keep endorsing her. Gawker, Sarah Lacy, etc. should be questioned why they continue to constantly promote this person.
Um, Milo, the earlier jump did not coincide with the camping/foo camp/facebook visit which was last weekend, not 8 April. You may want to check that.
Wasn't it around the 8th that she started circle jerking RANDI ZUCKERFUCKWHOEVER nonstop?
On her twitter, I mean.
That's correct, partypants. She mentioned the Randi doesn't own a sleeping back and is therefore a true New Yorker at hard rubbish but the Telegraph post says: "So how does Julia explain the earlier, even more massive and rapid increase in her fans - which happened around the time she went camping with, yes, you guessed it, Randi Zuckerberg?".She spoke about the camping, but the camping itself happened later.Nitpicking, but the story is too goood to be discredited by minor details.
heartyes, i'm an idiot at times
argh!!! BECAUSE OF minor details.i suck at multitasking.
Thanks guys - I've corrected the camping error.
I also think Loren is smoking hot. He has a beautiful wife, too.
Wow, you're right Randi is gorgeous.http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/DLD+Conference+2009+D8r9Qor2KM7l.jpg
Well come on people! Of course Julia Allison Baugher has more fans that all of you combined. It only makes sense because (according to the current Info page on her FaceBook profile): "Julia is also the co-founder of NonSociety.com, a next generation new media "magazine" geared towards today’s savvy young women, which garners over half a million visitors every month."That's 500,000 VISITORS a month haters!! Stat that up your arse internets!
Milo,This is roughly my understanding of what happened:1.) Randi Z. put Julia in the Facebook "Newsletter" in early April, this gave her a large boost in fans (i.e. approx. 10,000-12,000). Nothing illegal with this action.2.) In the April 20th range, Julia converted approx. 2,500 friend requests to fans. This action seems to be in violation of Facebook's Terms of Service agreement for Facebook pages. That agreement stipulates that there must be an "express opt-in process" for fans. All the people in Julia's queue were expecting to become friends, not fans. This action was probably illegal even though it is reportedly a practice that extends beyond Julia.
I don't care if it extends to the fucking Pope. Facebook needs to not be converting a request of one kind into a request of another kind without the consent of its users. What part of this do you NOT GET? Oh blah blah it's not a big deal, Jaba's not the only one doing it flerg nerf blah blah snort WHO CARES? A lot of people kill women, so I guess Ted Bundy just got a bad rap, eh? God you people trying to justify this shit are insane.
Yes, Milo. That's how I understand it as well. I looked through the stats and checked with a few people and it seems to be the consesus. How about her inflated page views? She sends a bio to professional organizations with 500,000 page views as her stat. Not even close. It's less than 1/20 that...
Loren is sexy. Because he's so confident and not afraid to call people out. Hot, hot, hot.
Loren going too far? I looked at his page of tweets and laughed and laughed. The dissembling Julia Allison Baugher deserves every slam she's ever gotten, as do her idiot minions, Randi Zuckerburg included. Botox Betty and Ugly Betty, indeed. Add in that telling graph and Feldman's my fucking hero.
The friend-requested-to-fan bait and switch happened to me. In 2006 or 2007. I friended this little cult-icon Barack Obama and promptly forgot about it. The next time I logged into my account, I was a fan of Barack Obama. I searched the official page for an "un-fan" button, but couldn't find one. (I forget how the pages feature evolved. I don't remember whether his page appeared in my "groups" or if it was a "supports" or "fan of" section or... And I don't remember if his official page was laid out like a group or a personal profile or something else.) I wrote Facebook an angry email. I said I didn't want to endorse any candidate. That I appeared to endorse him was fraudulent. It misused my identity. It's still wrong
Jesus I think I peed myself, Loren. Julia in a pink tutu screaming FUCK CAMPING! WHERE'S MAAAAAARK
what newsletter? fb sends a newsletter/email to all their members? what?I posted the link to julia's fb stats yesterday and said that the initial jump in fans was probably because she was one of the people recommended by fb to other users. the recommendation I was talking about doesn't happen via a newsletter. it's done through the little mechanism that suggests friends and peple to fan on facebook. i linked to an article that explained the new practice. if there's a fb newsletter going out recommending certain users i've never heard of it. has anyone else?
I bet Loren Feldman shags like a MINX. grrr :)
Sorry, can't help to snark, Randi's teeth are more yellow than my piss. That is all.
Anon 4:20PM - LOL!I think that every time I see a photo of her. With all that FB money, why in God's name hasn't she fixed those horrible rat teeth yet???!!!