A reader e-mailed Jackles to ask her the following:
Hi Julia
I see that you had dinner with Gloria Steinem last night. Did you discuss the expiration date that you feel women have? I think Gloria would have a lot to say about that!
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This was the reply:
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From: Julia Allison <julia@nonsociety.com>
Date: Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: Women have Expiration Dates
To: [REDACTED]
ha - I'm sure Gloria (and just about anyone else) would agree that it's pretty much a scientific fact women can't have children after a certain age. ??
Oh my God. Now you see, this is what I really loathe about Jackles. She uttered that bit of ridiculousness in a documentary in which she attempts to justify why she is getting shit INJECTED INTO HER FACE long before she turns 30. And now she's trying to suggest she was talking about a woman's fertility?
Why is she so incapable of saying this: "I really regret saying that. It was a stupid thing to say. Of course I don't believe women have expiration dates; that comment was reflective of my own personal insecurities about my looks."
But no. Spin spin spin, lie lie lie.
I'll say it.
ReplyDeleteShe's put on even more weight. If you compared that photo to a photo taken of her last year at this time you wouldn't even recognize her.
So...based on her math, women can't have babies after the age of what...31?
ReplyDeleteTHANK GOD! I can finally go off the fucking norplant.
PS: I'm pretty sure Gloria would enlighten Captian Feminism up there about how childbearing is far from being the only thing that determines a woman's worth.
ReplyDeleteJulia, eat a dick and shut up. kthx
How can anyone stand to be around this woman?
ReplyDeleteWoah her arms look like nice ripe ham hocks. Here, Sooey sooey!
ReplyDeleteI've said it before and I'll say it again: she needs to cover up those bingo arms!
ReplyDeleteJulia, whatever Dr. Bobby has told you, Botulin Toxin & Restylane will not keep your ovaries from getting droopy.
ReplyDeleteThanks to the anonymous commenter who did these fabulous screen grabs, by the way.
ReplyDeleteI say we make a deal with Jackles. Every time she apologizes and takes responsibility for being a total ass, we run one of her hot skinny former life photos.
But when she does shit like this, we run real photos of how she actually looks now.
This could be the only thing that makes her smarten up!
She looks like Janis Joplin the morning after a 3-day bender.
ReplyDeleteJacy, I don't think there are enough fugly pics of her to post every time she acts like the asshole that she is.
she is such an odious person. I cannot believe that anyone - including that nitwit Randy Z. - could stand to be in her company.
ReplyDeleteShe's just vile.
If a woman can't have children, that does not mean she is expired. Julia is such a sexist pig! This is why everyone gets such a delight in her declining appearance. If Julia believes a woman's value is primarily rooted in her physical presentation, then Julia must feel completely valueless right now.
ReplyDeleteThe only thing that will smarten her up is a disfiguring accident, a weekend reading shit like "At Home In The World" and watching shit like "Mask", and someone like Anna Wintour publicly taking her down.
ReplyDeleteCan that photo be worked into the design of this blog so that it never ever goes away and it's the first thing a new visitor sees upon coming here???
ReplyDeleteI sympathize with her though, because when I gain weight, one of the first places it seems to collect is my arms too. The arms don't lie!
ReplyDeleteBut I've probably gained as much weight this past year as Julia because I haven't been getting my lazy ass back to the gym regularly.
I also have the same unhealthy obsession with potato chips and beer like she has for cupcakes.
Wait. I have chosen not to have children. Does that mean I have no expiration date?
ReplyDeleteAnd, has she ever read the news? Women are having children into their late forties and beyond. Does this scientific fact jive with her assertion that her own expiration date is less than a decade away?
Asshat!
Fuck, I hope she never has kids. If she's SO EXHAUSTED now, try attempting to be a mom for a while. She has nooooo idea what "exhaustion" truly is!
ReplyDeleteDidn't her BFF Meghan crack a line to Julia recently that she needs some guy to dump her ass so she can lose 15 lbs? Sad. :(
ReplyDeleteSure, her body shape is undeniably different that it was even a few months ago but whatevs, she looks perfectly fine (if maybe somewhat unhealthy). The problem is, her clothing choices aren't all that flattering. (Even when she was so-called officially "hot", the constant in-your-face cleavage, mini-shirts, rat extensions, and hooker boots looked just as bad ... if not worse.)
Actually, I'm unable to have children. So much for my expiration date, Julia. Wow, I guess I just don't measure up as a woman. Pass the botox!!!
ReplyDeleteSo when women can't have children, they are "expired" according to Julia. Wow. Just, Wow.
ReplyDeleteSo Julia, according to you, Gloria (since we're on a first-name basis here) would agree that it's pretty much a scientific fact women can't have children after a certain age.
ReplyDeleteAnd?
Is the logical extension that she'd therefore also agree with your statement that women have an expiry date?
And so she'd therefore agree with you that women should get botox and restalyne injections / boob jobs / rhinoplasty / electrolysis / hair extensions / major cosmetic dentistry / go on juice fasts / get colonic purges / tattoos (with a guy along to film it) / piercings (with a guy along to film it), etc. etc.
And that this somehow compensate for or forestalls that expiry date?
I'm not convinced, Miss Allison, that you have any idea who Gloria Steinem is or what she might believe in spite of the "it's true because I have a picture" you posted.
A little off-topic, but... the craziness was apparent ealry on.
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Now wait for a Julia's response saying that the expiration date comment (which she has used more than once) was "just a joke" or something.. and that people need to stop taking her so serious... and get a life... 3, 2, 1...
ReplyDelete"I say we make a deal with Jackles. Every time she apologizes and takes responsibility for being a total ass, we run one of her hot skinny former life photos."
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God, she is so colossally full of shit. No reasonable person could interpret her statement about expiration dates that way. No one.
ReplyDeleteI am certain Ms. Steinem would be mortified to know she took a picture with this miserable excuse for a woman.
Ok, I'm coming out of lurkerdom because of this one. And I'll preface it by saying that I think many of the comments on here are crossing a clear line of good taste and decorum. But, after Julia's complete and disgusting backtracking on such a vile and odious statement, I have to say that she is just so fucking stupid. Does she EVER own her mistakes and/or apologize?
ReplyDeleteeven if you take her explanation at face value, it's still horrendous. so women only have worth during their reproductive years? fuck you.
ReplyDeleteif she and ms. "my body, my botox" mary represent the new wave of feminism, i'm out.
ReplyDeleteI'm sending Gloria some out-takes from her expiration rants stat. This twat needs to be exposed.
ReplyDeleteanon4:16...they don't. those two fools don't even know what feminism means.
ReplyDeleteThis screengrab game is really fun:
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Did she make the expiration date comment in that surgery movie? Is there a video of it available online?
ReplyDeleteI know she said mentioned the expiration date thing in the mediabistro piece too but I can't quite put my finger on what specifically she means by it. Is it her looks, fame, overall image, what?
"Why would you want to present yourself in an unattractive light? I like being seen as attractive. I also know that I have an expiration date. Maybe seven years."
It's impossible for me to think of Jessica Lange or Helen Mirren or Isabelle Huppert as being past their expiration dates. But then, I don't look to Disney for my female role models.
ReplyDeleteIt genuinely surprises me that Julia has not yet lost the weight. She's so horrifyingly vain that you'd think she'd literally just stop eating for several days to drop a few pounds.
ReplyDeleteI can only assume she's one of those girls who was treated with more respectful and admiration than she should've been, simply because she was attractive... but she wasn't intelligent enough to put the two together. She thinks she inherently deserves all the good things that came to her thanks solely to her looks, due to her fantastic personality or intellect... that's just not the case.
Poor, poor, fat Julia... muffin-topping all over her poofy little skirts.
Just in case you need a reference, or would like to send the story to Ms. Steinem, here is the Page Six item referencing the plastic surgery documentary "Youth Knows No Pain" where Julia Allison states that women have an "expiration date."
ReplyDeletehttp://www.nypost.com/seven/04302009/gossip/pagesix/no_pain_no_show_166922.htm
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ReplyDeleteFrom Page Six:
ReplyDeleteNO PAIN NO-SHOW
April 30, 2009 --
INTERNET fame-whore Julia Allison is no feminist, and at the ripe old age of 27, she's familiar with many forms of plastic surgery. The blogger was a last-minute no-show at the Lincoln Center premiere of the HBO documentary "Youth Knows No Pain," but her wrinkles and laugh lines were on full display. Allison, who's had her nose reduced and her breasts enlarged, and her ex-pal Mary Rambin are shown in the film being injected with Botox. "As a woman, I know I have an expiration date," Allison declares. The doc, due on HBO in August, also fea tures Linda Wells and Simon Doonan.
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ReplyDeleteDahling: JA is too lazy to lose weight. That's why she was bulimic. Way easier to put your finger down your throat and barf up your cupcakes than stop eating then, go on a diet and work out five times a week.
ReplyDeleteI know that sounds terrible, but I believe, in JA's case, that laziness is at the root of all of her issues. As it is for many mentally ill people. An unwillingness to deal with your problems, and work hard to get past them.
THEM, not then
ReplyDeletePlease don't email Gloria Steinem. I would be embarrassed for her to find this website, truth be told.
ReplyDeleteIf Julia Allison would just redirect her spinning of lies into spinning in Mary Rambin's spin class, she'd solve two of her biggest problems at once.
ReplyDeleteBarcelona,
ReplyDeleteor Hillary Clinton, or Joan Didion, or Sheila Bair...
Ok, once again with feeling for the typepad...
ReplyDeleteAlso, the link has been posted already.
As far as her attempted spin is concerned, I will not even dignify that with a response as we all, including her, know very well what she meant when she said it.
Womanhood should get together and expel that freak. Is that possible?
Will the original emailer please write her back asking if she means that women are expired if they can't reproduce? And also asking how that applies to getting plastic surgery?
ReplyDeleteIt kind of amazes me that she bothers to spin such terrible excuses. Why not just not right back?
You hit the nail on the head, anon 4:51. Laziness is the root of all of Julia's issues - with food, freebies, "fuck you money," waking up at a decent hour and being places on time... the list goes on. Her mantra - Why work hard at ANYTHING when you can trade your dignity and self respect and get something easily?
ReplyDeleteSausage Snappers - I don't think Gloria needs to know about RBNS, just the links the NY Post and Mediabistro articles where Julia said women have an expiration date.
Seriously, what is she eating/doing to have gained this much weight in this short a period of time? Even last fall, during Fashion Week, she was 20 pounds thinner. She is bullshitting when she says it's only 15 pounds ... I am her size, I have had three kids, I know weight gain, and she has gained closer to 25 in less than a year.
ReplyDeleteWhat the hell is she eating?
@Longtime Lurker: Well, in this Vimeo she says that she has eaten 10-12 cupcakes at one sitting. http://www.vimeo.com/1440334
ReplyDeleteCupcakes from a bakery are like $5 each. She ate $50 worth of cupcakes? What a self-indulgent fatty.
@Anon 4:51 PM: I think you're right. Julia is absolutely lazy. It shocks me that she even held down the Star job.
ReplyDeleteI don't like to give her the benefit of a doubt, but lately, I don't think it's *just* laziness... the lack of content, weight gain, etc... she has just really lost a lot of motivation. I think the Bravo reality-TV fail is still eating at her.
She's 28 and finally realizing she has nothing she went after: no rich husband, no high-profile career. That's gotta make a girl want to hide in bed and do nothing.
Longtime Lurker -- Julia's rapid aging/weight gain/general deterioration is due to a number of bodily abuses taking place all at once:
ReplyDelete- lack of sleep and bad sleeping schedule - probably the easiest way to age yourself and end up looking bloated and tired
- unhealthy diet combined with juice fasting KILLS your metabolism so she packed on the pounds very quickly due to an extremely unhealthy pattern of starvation and indulgence
- ZERO exercise or regular physical activity means she has NO muscle tone and plenty of flab
- history of bulimia and unhealthy attitude towards food
anon 4:51: much of mental illness is biological and a brain problem not a problem of personality and not working hard to solve one's problems. please don't spread this type of blaming the victim mentality about mental illness.
ReplyDeletedahling: I guess the evidence shows she's more lazy than vain. who would've thought?
also even for those who have a non-biologically based mental illness/psych. condition, it's not just a matter of working hard and you're cured. usually the condition itself prevents that type of emotional clarity and pyscological health necessary to consistently and successfully pusue treatment. to blame it on laziness is truly disgusting and ignorant.
ReplyDeleteDahling: Your comments always make me howl. I love you. Even though I am sure you are approaching your expiration date and when that happens, clearly, we'll have to kill you.
ReplyDelete@Anon 5:02: Julia has so many deep-rooted issues that, be it vanity or laziness, that it makes for the perfect storm.
ReplyDeleteJacy, I'm so glad! I hope I can make one of you laugh because you guys have me giggling all the time.
ReplyDeleteIt's a chicken/egg thing. Did laziness contribute to her mental illness, or did her mental illness cause her laziness? I have a lot of family members with untreated mental illnesses (or I should say diagnosed but they refuse to go to therapy and deal with them), and getting them motivated to do ANYTHING has always been a problem, even as children. They just expected things to come easily for them, for others to do all the work, then got to adulthood and became very depressed to realize the world doesn't work that way.
ReplyDeleteIf you think of Julia, Meghan and Mary as Kountry Klub Kidz Without A Klue, nothing they say or do is worth a minute of anyone's time. Julia's vapid "expiration date" shit sounds like something she picked up from a bitter Klub member whose husband left her for his trashy young secretary. Julia always sounds like she needs 10 things to brag about in the Klub lounge after swimming and tennis. Yuck.
ReplyDeleteI am not speaking of julia. I'm speaking of mental illness and psychological problems in general. They are not a result of not working hard or being lazy. It's just an absurd assertion I don't really know what else to say if that isn't evident. And I doubt if you think certain people seem mentally ill that much of anything comes easy for them or that they expect it to after a lifetime of living with mental illness, please. Again, if they don't go to therapy maybe it's because their probleml prevents clear thinking or the skills needed to handle it and not because they are entitled and lazy. I hope to God you are not a therapist or in a field where you work with people with problems of any sort.
ReplyDelete^^^ sorry to hijack the thread, that's my last comment on this topic, sorry
ReplyDeleteI have been dealing with one family member in particular since I was a child and I suppose I have lost sympathy. There is a lack of will there to deal with the issues. When you're the one carrying the ball, yes, you lose some patience and some sympathy when there is a refusal to commit to getting better followed by a lifelong refusal to take on anything that requires hard work. I am tired and cynical, I guess, and even some of the professionals involved eventually lost patience too.
ReplyDeleteSometimes I see some of this in JA. A refusal to acknowledge problems and go figure out what to do to get better. A wallowing. A lack of desire to pull herself out of it.
Really, this loon needs to go away and grow up. She is so out to lunch on every level. She has fewer brains than most teenaged girls I know. Her views about womanhood and marriage and commitment are just so fucked up. What did her parents do to her? Does anyone know? Because this bullshit seems deep-rooted.
ReplyDeleteThe good news is that once she gets married she will get fat (you know...like all women because women "let themselves go" after marriage), and then she will pop out some kids and expire. And it won't matter that she is fat and expired, because she will have already achieved life's top goal...MARRIAGE (a piece of paper saying that a man likes her! for real!!!)! And then it won't matter if she is interesting, because she will be fat, expired, and she won't have to pay attention to her husband, because she already "got" him. And then he will find someone who isn't expired or fat, and she will be too busy at Pottery Barn Kids and American Girl Place to care.
ReplyDeleteSo you see, it's really a recipe for success.
And more to look forward to:
ReplyDeletejuliaallison: @McCainBlogette - Loved your piece on abstinence. You're absolutely right!! See you on Saturday at the dinner!
4 minutes ago from web
Have they ever met in person? What if one of the people she twitter stalks got a restraining order against her - would she then be barred from the dinner? Sorry, I'm more irked by her than usual.
Also, the female Zuckerberg is doing her part to keep up the JA-suspense:
randizuckerberg: Meeting at MTV to discuss Facebook collaboration on a new show. Randomly bumped into @juliaallison in the lobby, here for a top secret gig!
about 1 hour ago from TwitterBerry
Randomly. Right. like they don't exchange schedules when they are in the same city.
Foolia was at MTV because they are looking to do another True Life: I'm Going To Fat Camp.
ReplyDeleteRandi stayed at Julia's last night and JABA twittered her MTV plans this morning. I call bullshit.
ReplyDeleteWhat a tool this "zuck" is....
Dahling-
ReplyDeleteI love you too. Never realize your expiration date for this site!
BTW, I am seething. I cannot even begin to comment on Julia's expiration date comment and her response to [redacted]. Way to go [redacted]!
It truly surprises me that she's so stupid to email such nonsense to people and not expect it to come back to tarnish her further!
Self sabotage anyone?
Come on guys, Julia's not lying she's just telling the "Technical Truth". It's a concept she invented back at Georgetown, it's great!!!11
ReplyDeleteToolia looks like she is made of puffy marshmallow in the photo above. If she does ever get married and "lets herself go" she's really going to get large. And Randi is a bit deranged with her girl crush on Julia. It's making her do some really dumb things aka MTV:
- Julia worms her way into FB's new MTV show
- Randi is too lovestruck too realize what a disaster this will be
- MTV execs tolerate the Julia angle because they want Randi and FB
- eventually Julia's audience testing results come back and she is dumped.
- Julia cooks up some other scheme to get Randi to help her "build her brand".
- Continue until some sensible person pulls Randi aside and educates her.
WHY on earth is she doing a photo shoot?
ReplyDeletehttp://twitter.com/sheiserin
She's way too pickled for a gig at MTV. The MTV target demographic is TWEENS. TWEENS.
ReplyDelete@Anon 6:11... even weirder, why isn't she blogging about her photoshoot? She always has before. Odd.
ReplyDeleteDahling-
ReplyDeleteMaybe it's for the NBC taping. They are filming today, right? She probably needs new publicity pics or something. But she'd usually twit/blog about it. Wierd.
MTV? That's old media right?
ReplyDeleteI just can't think about jaba any.more.tonight.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if she told Gloria Steinem that she's clearly past her expiration date.
ReplyDeleteJulia Allison being the most lazy, insipid person on the planet - OK, that's one thing. Yeah she's annoying as fuck and is generally a waste of space, but if she does have mental illnesses like some have alluded to above, WHERE ARE HER PARENTS AND WHY DON'T THEY HELP HER????
ReplyDeleteJulia Allison's "photoshoot" was probably of the self scheduled/never appear anywhere variety, just like her birthday "photoshoot," they are pictures that will appear nowhere but in the imaginary magazine in her head.
ReplyDeleteGawd, Randi Zukcerberg is just as bad as Julia, only uglier. Her "mysterious" tweets about Julia being at MTV are so deliberate and obvious. She is disgusting. Any television opportunities Julia has will be blown, just like the Bravo deal. TV people in New York talk to each other... Julia's reputation precedes her in every new opp she gets. She is utterly unemployable in any medium - old or new media. Hang it up and go back to Chicago, sister.
Julia's blog today --- "This article - “The Exercise Myth” in the Daily Beast - is bound to be controversial!" "BAM! "EXERISE ISN'T THE KEY TO GETTING SLIM"
ReplyDeleteUm yeah... keep telling yourself that, cupcake ass.
CLEARLY, Randi just RAN INTO the girl whose house she slept at the night prior. I'm sure they didn't speak about their big important meeting the next day. The just spoke about the weather! God damn it, you vapid twits! DO they honestly think that their scheming and mutual name dropping isn't obvious. They clearly are happy attracting the lowest common denominator dim-wit fan base.
ReplyDeleteugh. she's going to burning man. wonder how prudes who don't drink or do drugs will fit in there. if burning man hasn't jumped the shark already, jaba's presence will make it so.
ReplyDeleteAnd although I know the details of the dinner were VERY PRIVATE (because that's the excuse Julia always uses); I cannot believe she can't write 1 single thing about Ms. Steinam, Ms., and/or a related topic. Just a big ass picture of her stupid mug.
ReplyDeleteYou know what I just did? I set my gmail account to the teahouse theme and will spend the rest of the evening enjoying the little fox and his serene little zen mood until I've had enough of that. Then I will read some of my favorite non-airport book du jour before falling asleep next to the beautiful and sweet man I have the pleasure living with.
ReplyDeleteTomorrow I will start pretending this [insert graphic term here] doesn't exist and in only a few days IT will indeed not exist in my reality anymore. Today showed me that looking at this creature too closely makes me lose some of my humanity. IT is clearly not worth that.
If even people here start ignoring IT, IT might go away. That would be best for everybody.
Randi is really enjoying playing these childish games alongside Julia. Why??? She should be smarter than that. If anyone crashed my bachelorette party and birthday party from a different coast, I'd sense a stalker. But what do I know, I'm about to expire.
ReplyDeleteThree years ago I had to have both ovaries removed, I get around surprisingly well for someone who has expired.
ReplyDeletethe key to getting slim is self-discipline. everyone knows that. why is this such a ground breaking article for julia allison?
ReplyDeleteI literally laughed out loud when I saw the burning man tweet. But then I thought about it. They don't accept money there. People trade for the things they need. It's perfect for her. She can trade cheap freebies for food and water. Say goodbye, New York City. There's a new life in the desert for Ms. Allison.
ReplyDeleteTJ it's not as if they have a choice. The lowest common denominator is the only audience that might be interested in such nonsense. Having a brain allows for critical viewing and questioning, they don't want that.
ReplyDeleteYeah, Julia can have an "Are You Expired?" booth at Burning Man to trade for cupcakes and colonics.
ReplyDeleteIf I recall correctly, JA's usage of the phrase "expiration date" in the Media Bistro article had nothing to do with fertility. She was clearly using it to explain that she had to advance as far as possible in her career while she still had her "looks"... in other words, she was planning on leveraging her sexual attractiveness to climb some ladders.
ReplyDeleteWhich is ironic considering that she doesn't actually have much sex... I think she doesn't sleep with men she dates because
1) she probably doesn't enjoy sex that much or have a very high sex drive.
2) she is probably crazy insecure about her naked body and the fact that a guy will have to see her in a vulnerable state that she can't pose her way out of.
3) there probably aren't aren't genuinely nice guys she's going out with, since she's clearly thrusting out her tits for a certain type of guy.
re: 3, her "certain type of guy" is typically successful but doesn't temper that positive trait with humility. So she, demanding and attention-needing as she is, can hardly deal with someone equally or more high maintenance than her, yet that's ALWAYS the type she's gunning for. She's kind of delusional if she thinks that for such guys, her "letting herself go" post-marriage would be acceptable, or even that they would allow her behavior to continue rather than squashing it immensely. She's essentially trying to marry into a position where her behavior and attitude would never be accepted nor tolerated. She had ONE opportunity with a guy who had his success and treated her like a princess. Her words exactly, she went looking for the "or better offer" and decided she needed to figure out if she could stand on her own (probably better BEFORE you decide to enter a long-term relationship with any guy) without him. She could've been herself (though we'd assume less manic due to having a support system and money, from him) with him - and that we and she will never truly know - but thought she needed to take the independent route to prove she didn't need a man. Ironically, all her endeavors since then have been about finding a man to settle down with and from time to time pining over that one specific ex.. even after he made it clear he wasn't OK with being mentioned on her site. Funny that she compared Jakob to him, yet she couldn't settle for him and entered another pretty long-term relationship with Jakob. THEN she had to qualify his looks publicly as a means of explaining why someone who looked like her would be with someone who looked like him. She's really just sad all around.
ReplyDeleteWell said. And she really is sad. Constantly rewriting history to make it all ok. But deep down she must know all the truths and know what a terrible person she is. To quote her: sad :(
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